The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[hellfire]

I'm pretty sure that this could all have been swept under the rug if he had politely and privately approached the principal and asked not to interact with this student. Although it doesn't sound like he had to anyway.

I can understand him not wanting to use pronouns and comply with the nonsense, he could still have kept his job and avoided prison food if he wasn't a complete idiot.

[Ollkiller]

I'm pretty sure that this could all have been swept under the rug if he had politely and privately approached the principal and asked not to interact with this student. Although it doesn't sound like he had to anyway.

I can understand him not wanting to use pronouns and comply with the nonsense, he could still have kept his job and avoided prison food if he wasn't a complete idiot.

He 100% wants the publicity and will stay in jail for as long as he can. The whole Burke family is the same.

[astfgyl]

Yeah there's a discussion to be had but not with him as the face of it. Sort of like when we had Waters and Doherty standing up for our constitutional rights.

[astfgyl]

https://www.loudersound.com/features/godfleshs-justin-broadrick-my-life-in-10-songs)

Just got on that again there. Great read really put me in the mood for a bit of jkb non Godflesh stuff must run through a bit tonight with the cans. Cheers

[Ollkiller]

https://www.loudersound.com/features/godfleshs-justin-broadrick-my-life-in-10-songs)

Just got on that again there. Great read really put me in the mood for a bit of jkb non Godflesh stuff must run through a bit tonight with the cans. Cheers

It's a great article.

[pete]

Yeah there's a discussion to be had but not with him as the face of it. Sort of like when we had Waters and Doherty standing up for our constitutional rights.

Do you agree now so that he was not suspended for his beliefs?

[astfgyl]

No, I still think his beliefs made him do it. It was needless, yes, but not to him by the look of it.

[pete]

No, I still think his beliefs made him do it. It was needless, yes, but not to him by the look of it.

But why don't you believe he was jailed for his beliefs then? Surely his beliefs are making him do it all?

[astfgyl]

No, I still think his beliefs made him do it. It was needless, yes, but not to him by the look of it.

But why don't you believe he was jailed for his beliefs then? Surely his beliefs are making him do it all?

Ah fuck I'm suffering from some sort of cognitive dissonance there you might have me on that one

[astfgyl]

Possibly maybe just a small bit

[hellfire]

This type of thing seems to be happening all over Europe and will only get worse. When the centre fails to handle issues someone will be waiting in the wings on one of the extremes. Immigration and asylum policy has been fucked for about fifteen years now. Failure to acknowledge that has landed one of the most liberal countries on the planet in with this:

Swedish elections MSN

[astfgyl]

Aye those Swedish figures were surprising to most people but I'm not completely shocked by them. Immigration hasn't gone so well over there of late and people are bound to look for the change that they see in rejection of the main parties over there. I'm not saying it's a good thing at all but when folks get the same policies no matter who they vote for, something is bound to give.

Edit: also this shit "Journalist Kenes, however, remains convinced that the party is a threat to democracy."

Democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

Threat to democracy me hole. That's been twisted to shit and is the call of bullshitters everywhere when they don't agree with the will of the people.

[hellfire]

Every election across Europe where it is raised as an issue people vote for less. Governments and media have lost all credibility at this point. EU immigration failure has resulted in widespread unrest yet they cling to their ideological position in spite of the displeasure of ordinary "citizens".

[astfgyl]

I agree with that and I'm not against immigration. Less of it in the one go would be a good thing though and would head off these extreme parties before they managed to build up a head of steam at all. Just look at how the Nazis capitalised on similar dissatisfaction after the Weimar Republic. We all know how that turned out.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

It's mainly a shift within the "right bloc" of parliament though; the "centre-right" party, which was previously the biggest right leaning party, lost a lot of votes to the "far-right" party. But at the same time, in the "left bloc", the main Social Democrat party, despite losing a few but not many votes to the right, made net gains rather than losses. Sweden does seem to have become a mess alright though, and those riots earlier in the year really underlined to what extent their (lack of) integration plans have failed. The riots were instigated by a far-right figure who declared he was going to go through Muslim neighborhoods burning the Quran, and the young male immigrants fell into the trap, quite possibly signing their own extradition papers, so absent is their understanding of democracy and the fact that governments in the west really can change quite radically, especially from the point of view of a foreigner. Interestingly too, despite how much the right likes to use rape and sexual assault by immigrants to garner support, looking at the exit polls by gender, the left had a 15% lead among women while the right had a 13% lead with men.

Getting most of this vote/exit poll breakdown from an acquaintance from back home who studied in Sweden for a while and is doing a PhD in economics at LSE. He has lots more, with graphs, etc., on his twitter:
https://twitter.com/NeilWarner_/status/1569045694018912256