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Title: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 16, 2019, 09:42:32 PM
What a stunning performance of a band at the absolute peak of their power.  When I was a massively obsessed Metallica fan in the early nineties I never saw this footage.  Where/how was it originally released? I stopped listening to Metallica for years as I was delving into other areas of metal but have come back to them in the last decade or so and have only become familiar with this footage in recent years.  I keep coming back to it with a few tins on the weekends. What an utterly ruthless set.  I think if I'd seen them in 90/91/92 at the height of my obsession my head would have exploded. 
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Trev on March 16, 2019, 10:03:02 PM
It was in the Live Shit boxset, think that came out around 92/3?
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 16, 2019, 10:13:11 PM
YouTube saves the day! It's mad,  I'm too old for hero worship but watching this gives me vivid memories of my complete and utter adulation.  These people were my gods! I wonder are there bands out there any more who young lads regard as being larger than life or has the internet ruined that.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: leatherface on March 16, 2019, 10:25:22 PM
'Live Shit: Binge and Purge'

This was a staple diet for me back in the mists of time. A mate had the videos and it was the Seattle show that always stood out. Another one I remember watching constantly was a show recorded for BBC television, also 'And Justice..' era. A personal highlight from the Seattle show for me is a short moment after Jason's bass solo (I think ) where they start playing a part of 'To live is to die', really atmospheric.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 16, 2019, 10:26:56 PM
Jason's bass solo on here now,  coincidentally...
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Emphyrio on March 16, 2019, 10:35:51 PM
Would have killed to see them live around then. An absolute force, and I don't think any metal band has ever matched how good they were back then, most notably, themselves. Peak band at peak powers. Untouchable, really.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 16, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
Hot Tub Time Machine fire Christmas,  wha!
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Emphyrio on March 16, 2019, 11:27:53 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 16, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
Hot Tub Time Machine fire Christmas,  wha!

Because that sounds only semi-gay, fuck ya!!
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 16, 2019, 11:39:05 PM
Sure I'm on a semi just thinking about it.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Wiseblood on March 16, 2019, 11:49:11 PM
Phenomenal performance. Also worth looking up on youtube is Canada 1986 (with Newsted) . It was late 86 and they were FERAL. Their encore of Fight Fire With Fire and Blitzkrieg is just otherworldly.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: TurnTheAirBlue on March 16, 2019, 11:49:57 PM
It's a great gig!!! Whiplash is insane on it!!! I wore Live Shit Binge and Purge out back in the day along with Slayers Live Intrusion and Sepultura Live in Barcelona. That Seps gig from Barcelona is amazing!!!
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Paul keohane on March 17, 2019, 10:31:24 AM
Yeah the Seps one in Barcelon is incredible!,i was an absolute Metallica fanatic for the first few years of my metal life.Only saw them the once on the load tour in the Point.,it was brilliant but no Seattle!
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Cryptic Stench on March 17, 2019, 07:54:34 PM
I've got the box set and must've returned to the Seattle show 20 times since I got it. By contrast, I can't watch the other set, San Diego is it? On the black album tour. Musically solid but heading into the Metallica Family pantomime shit that's completely absent from Seattle.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Pedrito on March 17, 2019, 09:43:25 PM
They were the greatest metal band ever. That's not to say others aren't amazing, it's saying at that time, Metallica were stratospherically fucking good. There's a great interview on youtube, Billy Corgan telling Lars about seeing them on the Ride the Lightning tour and that the roof nearly came off the place, it was so intense. Goosebump stuff.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Paul keohane on March 17, 2019, 09:51:35 PM
Yeah at their peak they were untouchable,i still remember the day i first heard them.I was about 11,a guy in school had Master of puppets in his walkman,my  jaw hit the floor,that was introduction to metal,hooked for life!.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Trev on March 17, 2019, 09:53:32 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on March 17, 2019, 07:54:34 PM
I've got the box set and must've returned to the Seattle show 20 times since I got it. By contrast, I can't watch the other set, San Diego is it? On the black album tour. Musically solid but heading into the Metallica Family pantomime shit that's completely absent from Seattle.
I liked the San Diego one and would still throw it on ocassionaly but it's definitely missing the ferocity of Seattle. A lot more polished and professional, crazy that they're only about three years part
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: ldj on March 17, 2019, 11:19:15 PM
People act like Metallica are where they are because they 'sold out' but they fact is that when they were in their prime they really were just on another level.

The ambitiousness of their songwriting, their ability to craft a great album and of course their live performances just set them apart from the rest of the Thrash pack.

They were arguably too good to be called Thrash Metal.

I love Bonded by Blood for example, but can you really listen it and Master of Puppets and say they're in the same ballpark?
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 17, 2019, 11:21:12 PM
Different kettle of fish, to be sure.  Whatever about selling out it's clear that they have forgotten the art of songwriting since then. 
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: ldj on March 18, 2019, 02:03:36 AM
True.

They've been doing the copying and pasting riffs thing since St. Anger.

Say what you will about the stylistic changes on Load, they were at least writing cohesive songs.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Pedrito on March 18, 2019, 12:06:54 PM
Great point about being too good for Thrash. Time tells all and the wheat is sorted from the chaff eventually. Many great artists and writers were never recognised, or were under appreaciated during their lifetimes. Metallica were part of the creation of a genre and then went on to transcend that genre. Their ambition, however you may view the Black album, was massive. They took a style and developed it as far as they could, to its very limit...spending an ungodly amount of time in the studio..how many guitar tracks did Hetfield have on some songs...40 or 50. They flew in the face of convention, pissed off and lost lots of fans in the process, but they weren't willing to sit still and just churn out the same E chord for the rest of their lives.

Their post Black albums show a band, in my opinon, who basically burnt out all their ideas in the style, and having nowhere to turn to creatively, they were forced to try to reinvent themselves completely, which is an often impossible thing to achieve. That says a lot about the type of people that they are and the band that they are. They probably had tape loads of Echord, For Whom The Bell Tolls stuff, that would have been perfectly fine for their fans, but they chose the more difficult route and the result was somewhat piecemeal sounding, with great ideas interspersed throughout the last number of albums. It's not that they're incapable of writing another chuggy Sad But True or Sanitarium, it's more likely that every time they started on a new one, it started to sound like they were repeating themselves, cloning themselves as such, and real artists, very creative people, tend to burn out an idea and move forward rather than continuously repeat the same concept again and again. I think that would be especially true for those who play, what could be seen as quite a limited genre such as thrash...it can be quite a limited palette as such. 

Will they ever make an album to match the early ones? I would say that that would be highly unlikely, but who knows. The last one showed signs of rebirth, but was it not them going back to a Metallica by numbers kind of scenario? It's a little damned if you don't and damned if you do, but maybe time will allow us to see some of their later work in a more favourable light.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: mick1sheridan on March 19, 2019, 10:17:43 AM
That whole gig is insane. I was trying to think of a standout song in it but there are so many. Blackened to open any Metallica gig is always good. Harvester of Sorrow might be better than the original here, so much intensity, and James little speech before hand is great. I love how they do Breadfan to finish, I've watched Hetfield shout "GET UP" to the crowd as it kicks in so many times.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Goatlord on March 19, 2019, 10:57:17 AM
It was great to see this reissued as part of the AJFA boxset, stunning sound on the vinyl. Really well mastered. Sounds massive
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Trev on March 19, 2019, 01:40:54 PM
So they've announced an S&M2 in September. Looking at their performances in recent years where they can't keep time with each other I've no idea how they'll be able to lock in with an orchestra
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 19, 2019, 01:41:57 PM
Sounds like a potential laugh alright  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Don Gately on March 20, 2019, 05:21:49 PM
Yes Metallica during the 80s were unreal. I got into them when my cousin from US brought a copy of Ride The Lightning over in 85 maybe, hooked then and liked the Black album too when it came out. Went to see them in the Point in 92? not a great gig tbh, they supported themselves with a video,  segments of songs mashed together, 3 hour set list with endless solos, I was well bored. Looking back they were at their peak in 88/89 , all the talk about the One video single, they really broke ground there.  Fair play to them for that.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Gibonz on March 21, 2019, 09:02:32 PM
Quote from: leatherface on March 16, 2019, 10:25:22 PM
Another one I remember watching constantly was a show recorded for BBC television, also 'And Justice..' era.

Enjoy man...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nedb6oVInc
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Hank Hill on March 23, 2019, 09:24:53 AM
This is just a sample of MetConcert100 uploads on Youtube. Well worth checking out.

https://youtu.be/o2EmWosdtuE
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Juggz on March 23, 2019, 10:03:38 AM
Utterly fucking ferocious.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Blitzer666 on March 23, 2019, 11:25:49 AM
https://youtu.be/bP5_y16Zwdw

Just shows why Jason should never have been sacked....

Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Wiseblood on March 23, 2019, 01:23:05 PM
https://youtu.be/6gcLW4gMRZE

Pure magic.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: seanor on March 23, 2019, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 16, 2019, 09:42:32 PM
What a stunning performance of a band at the absolute peak of their power.  When I was a massively obsessed Metallica fan in the early nineties I never saw this footage.  Where/how was it originally released? I stopped listening to Metallica for years as I was delving into other areas of metal but have come back to them in the last decade or so and have only become familiar with this footage in recent years.  I keep coming back to it with a few tins on the weekends. What an utterly ruthless set.  I think if I'd seen them in 90/91/92 at the height of my obsession my head would have exploded.

I can relate to everything you've written here. I was totally obsessed with Metallica in the very early 90s and would have given my left ball to have seen them around that time, even though I caught them first in 1995 at Donington.

I would regard Seattle 1989 as probably them at their very best, that is on record anyways, that we've seen ..... pure fucking ferocity. The set was unbelievable. Hetfield was at his very best (God-like), Lars was doing the business in fairness (don't think he hit a beat wrong throughout the whole gig), Kirk is just Kirk , Jason is a force to be reckoned with, his backing vocals were fucking lethal.

It's sad to see how shit they've become when you look back on something like that. I wish they could have stayed like that forever .....
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Blitzer666 on March 24, 2019, 12:09:35 PM
James just needs to get a bottle of absolut vodka down his neck and become an angry , hateful motherfucker again.

Who didn't wanna be big James growing up?
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: seanor on March 24, 2019, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on March 24, 2019, 12:09:35 PM
James just needs to get a bottle of absolut vodka down his neck and become an angry , hateful motherfucker again.

Who didn't wanna be big James growing up?

I idolized him in my teens if I'm being honest.

I think James had to call it a day after he ended up in a tiny hut somewhere in Russia drinking raw vodka, and woke up with a russian skank and a bag of brown beside him, or so the story goes ....
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Blitzer666 on March 24, 2019, 01:21:18 PM
Didn't know much about his private life, tried to watch some kind of monster a few times, couldn't get past first 20 minutes tho.

Milton Keynes 93 was amazing gig too, broadcast by radio one, they asked hetfield not to swear, first thing he shouts is f**k you motherf**kers.
https://youtu.be/bdYFfOWGWfA
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: seanor on March 24, 2019, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on March 24, 2019, 01:21:18 PM
Didn't know much about his private life, tried to watch some kind of monster a few times, couldn't get past first 20 minutes tho.

Milton Keynes 93 was amazing gig too, broadcast by radio one, they asked hetfield not to swear, first thing he shouts is f**k you motherf**kers.
https://youtu.be/bdYFfOWGWfA

Milton Keynes was probably them at their prime throughout the Black album era. Absolutely scandalous gig. Jason stands out on this one for just being a fucking animal.

It was downhill after this. Donington 95 was when all the muck started to flow i.e. Load/Reload shite
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Blitzer666 on March 24, 2019, 01:34:25 PM
£19 for a ticket too, oh how times have changed!!
Was a great natural arena for a gig too, don't think it's used much now?
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on March 25, 2019, 09:16:08 AM
That Milton Keynes gig was phenomenal. The whole weekend actually. Bus from Monaghan, ferry to Holyhead.... pure mayhem with a coach load of metalers.
That young guy in the front row during Seek & Destroy. Hetfield came over to him with the mike, cameras panned on to him for the big screen and just as he screamed "searching, seek & destroy" into the mike one of his mates decided to choke him. He sounded like a 7 year old girl on helium.
Hahahahaha, funny as fuck. Poor gasún....
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Don Gately on March 27, 2019, 11:57:15 AM
Was that when Whipping  Boy supported them?
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on March 27, 2019, 12:28:16 PM
Hahaha, you nutter.... Lol 😂

Megadeth, The Almighty and Diamond Head.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Don Gately on March 28, 2019, 04:44:58 PM
I meant Placebo, that was 1999!
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Juggz on March 29, 2019, 05:54:04 AM
Easy mistake to make.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Gibonz on March 30, 2019, 07:58:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ESicEzUtqk

Some guy in the YT comments has worked out the speed increase on the Toronto 86 set  :laugh:

Battery - Original 193 BPM / Live 211 BPM (9% faster)
Master Of Puppets - Original 212 BPM / Live 229 BPM (8% faster)
For Whom The Bell Tolls - Original 118 BPM / Live 139 BPM (18% faster)
Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (Slow Part) - Original 95 BPM / Live 107 BPM (13% faster)
Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (Fast Part) - Original 218 BPM / Live 255 BPM (17% faster)
Ride The Lightning - Original 164 BPM / Live 194 BPM (18% faster)
Whiplash - Original 159 BPM / Live 192 BPM (21% faster)
The Things That Should Not Be - Original 111 BPM / Live 131 BPM (18% faster)
Fade To Black (Slow Part) - Original 113 BPM / Live 124 BPM (10% faster)
Fade To Black (Fast Part) - Original 138 / Live 168 BPM (22% faster)
Seek And Destroy (Slow Part) - Original 142 BPM / Live 162 BPM (16% faster)
Seek And Destroy (Fast Part) - Original 208 BPM / Live 254 BPM (22% faster)
Creeping Death - Original 204 BPM / Live 246 BPM (21% faster)
The Four Horsemen - Original 210 BPM / Live 250 BPM (19% faster)
Am I Evil? - Original 156 BPM / Live 188 BPM (21% faster)
Damage, Inc. - Original 186 BPM / Live 208 BPM (12% faster)
Fight Fire With Fire - Original 186 BPM / Live 225 BPM (21% faster)
Blitzkrieg - Original 197 BPM / live 238 BPM (21% faster)
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Necro Red on March 30, 2019, 09:28:37 PM
The Seattle show is one I watch regularly. They are just on fire, Hetfield is such a force to be reckoned with. Intense stuff!
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Hambeast on April 08, 2019, 05:05:16 PM
I enjoyed the gig in Japan which came with the Master of Puppets remaster. Something about the vocals in particular stands out to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxjR-V6ZeRk
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Blitzer666 on May 03, 2019, 07:38:08 AM
Jesus, don't think much of their encore last night in Lisbon,

16. Lords Of Summer
17. Nothing Else Matters
18. Enter Sandman

Like really?? Awful song , followed by a ballad, followed by their 'everyone knows this tune' to finish.

Wheres damage Inc!?
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Juggz on May 03, 2019, 07:57:46 AM
Given the state of them, these days, surely it's a good thing they leave the classics alone and only butcher the memory of the weaker tracks for the crowd, no?
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Emphyrio on May 03, 2019, 08:12:28 AM
Hopefully that's the way they do the encore at Slane. Perfect opportunity to get the hell out of dodge and beat the traffic.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Blitzer666 on May 03, 2019, 11:04:54 AM
Quote from: Emphyrio on May 03, 2019, 08:12:28 AM
Hopefully that's the way they do the encore at Slane. Perfect opportunity to get the hell out of dodge and beat the traffic.

Nah, they'll substitute lords of summer for whisky in the jar!!! Oh lordy
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Don Gately on May 08, 2019, 10:43:55 AM

I'm going to the Cure instead.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 08, 2019, 12:12:08 PM
itt can we restrict conversation to when Metallica were at the top of their game?
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: livingabortion on May 09, 2019, 12:32:02 AM
There's been a few reaction video's popping up on youtube about the concert they played in Russia in the early 90's.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Gibonz on May 09, 2019, 12:45:52 PM
Harvester of Sorrow from Moscow in 1991 is without doubt my fav live performance of theirs.

Unreal

Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Cosmic_Equilibrium on July 08, 2019, 10:00:53 PM
Great video and a classic performance. I got the AJFA box set just to get  this on vinyl and MP3 really.

The Canada video from 86 referred to above is savage too.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Carnage on July 08, 2019, 10:48:31 PM
Seattle '89 is their finest hour IMO. I bought Live Shit... just for that, really.

Quote from: Gibonz on May 09, 2019, 12:45:52 PM
Harvester of Sorrow from Moscow in 1991 is without doubt my fav live performance of theirs.

Unreal
When they stop and Hetfield hocks up a mouthful, turns my stomach.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: leatherface on July 10, 2019, 02:30:37 PM
Picked up 'Master of Puppets' on cassette this week second hand (from a book/record shop in Spain) and had forgotten about 'The Thing That Should Not Be', badass song, just love those slow, chunky riffs. Do/did they play this much live?
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Ducky on July 10, 2019, 10:19:28 PM
"The Thing That Should Not Be" is my ground zero for metal and by extension, music in general. It's still my favourite Metallica tune and the first thing I listen to when I stick MoP on.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 10, 2019, 10:56:47 PM
Amazing song. 
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: DeletedUsermNqGIiIuGy on July 10, 2019, 11:28:07 PM
I was so late to really appreciating that song. It's so fucking heavy. The riff when the solo kicks in is fucking crushing
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Grim Reality on July 10, 2019, 11:55:18 PM
According to some setlist website they played it live in the Point in 99. I was there but don't remember it specifically. I just remember having mixed emotions about that gig. As a 16 year old at one of my first metal gigs and being a Metallica fanatic I was conflicted between the elation of seeing them live and the disappointment of the newer material and the weaker overall sound and set list of the band in that era.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Cernunnos on July 11, 2019, 08:59:35 AM
Yeah is was on their setlist for the 1999 tour, like you i  dont remember it  being played, my young brain and alcohol didnt help.
only memory was battery at the end of the set.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 11, 2019, 10:32:40 AM
I wasn't even drunk but don't remember much about the details of that gig, except that they played Nothing Else Matters, which gave me the excuse to nab the young wan who'd worked with me in Tesco a couple of years before and make the most of the lowest point of the setlist.

18, first BIG concert, first time seeing Metalli-fuckin-a... I was in a state of overwhelmed delirium of some kind, and that I remember well.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Wiseblood on July 11, 2019, 11:01:27 AM
I  was 18 and over the moon to be at that gig too. I recall being pissed off that I didn't get up closer due to there being the armband/pit craic.

The setlist from that show was pure gold compared to the shite they peddled at Slane.

You can't argue with Breadfan, The Thing That Should Not Be, Fight Fire With Fire and Wherever I May Roam all in the one show.

Monster Magnet were a decent support too.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Carnage on July 11, 2019, 12:40:40 PM
Last time I saw them was when they were touring Load/Reload, which would have been around '97 I think? They were pretty average that night, the whole set-breaking-down shtick was cringeworthy too. I'm more pissed off that I missed COC that night. I was upstairs in the bar, heard them play but wasn't paying much attantion and thought it was just background music before their set.

They were class on the previous tour for the s/t album, though.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Adler on July 19, 2019, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: Grim Reality on July 10, 2019, 11:55:18 PM
According to some setlist website they played it live in the Point in 99. I was there but don't remember it specifically. I just remember having mixed emotions about that gig. As a 16 year old at one of my first metal gigs and being a Metallica fanatic I was conflicted between the elation of seeing them live and the disappointment of the newer material and the weaker overall sound and set list of the band in that era.

I got backstage at that gig and met the guys from Monster Magnet. I doubt they remember meeting me though.

In terms of the Seattle gig one thing that really stands out to me is how good Lars' drumming was. We all know he gets alot of stick and he's no Lombardo or Portnoy but he's very very tight here.

Someone earlier mentioned Harvester of Sorrow from Moscow in '91, I have to agree I still think that's the best recorded performance I've seen of them. The military helicopter flying above the crowd and the troops acting as security is unreal. Pantera were great that day too.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: leatherface on July 19, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
Quote from: Adler on July 19, 2019, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: Grim Reality on July 10, 2019, 11:55:18 PM
According to some setlist website they played it live in the Point in 99. I was there but don't remember it specifically. I just remember having mixed emotions about that gig. As a 16 year old at one of my first metal gigs and being a Metallica fanatic I was conflicted between the elation of seeing them live and the disappointment of the newer material and the weaker overall sound and set list of the band in that era.



Someone earlier mentioned Harvester of Sorrow from Moscow in '91, I have to agree I still think that's the best recorded performance I've seen of them. The military helicopter flying above the crowd and the troops acting as security is unreal. Pantera were great that day too.

There's an interview by Joe Rogan with Hetfield about the Moscow concert,

If you haven't seen it here's the link:


https://youtu.be/qmSgl4mwZ4Q
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Snare on July 23, 2019, 01:40:48 PM
Nice one 'face. Interesting theory here on what happened to Lar's drumming:

https://youtu.be/fsq-YBVDxgA

:laugh:
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Ducky on July 24, 2019, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: Snare on July 23, 2019, 01:40:48 PM
Nice one 'face. Interesting theory here on what happened to Lar's drumming:

https://youtu.be/fsq-YBVDxgA

:laugh:

His reaction to Anthrax... He's clearly a man of culture  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on September 03, 2019, 07:28:13 PM
If anything (gawd forbid) ever happens to Lars, we have a ready made replacement for the drums...

https://youtu.be/Y1Io97JL2EA
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Juggz on September 16, 2019, 08:54:07 PM
QuoteMetallica has been selling out arenas and stadiums across the world during its "WorldWired" tour, which launched in 2016. Germany, Switzerland and Austria are no exception: all 15 concerts in those countries, six stadiums and nine arenas, sold out completely.


The GSA shows sold 486,130 tickets, grossing more than €42 million. To honor this success, Live Nation GSA recently presented Metallica with a Sold Out Award.

I thought they were awarded that the day they called Bob Rock, wha?
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Ducky on September 16, 2019, 09:05:15 PM
Quote from: Juggz on September 16, 2019, 08:54:07 PM
QuoteMetallica has been selling out arenas and stadiums across the world during its "WorldWired" tour, which launched in 2016. Germany, Switzerland and Austria are no exception: all 15 concerts in those countries, six stadiums and nine arenas, sold out completely.


The GSA shows sold 486,130 tickets, grossing more than €42 million. To honor this success, Live Nation GSA recently presented Metallica with a Sold Out Award.

I thought they were awarded that the day they called Bob Rock, wha?

Two drums and a cymbal fall off a cliff...

Incidentally, it still sounded better than Lars
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Wiseblood on September 17, 2019, 12:08:25 AM
My And Justice For All deluxe set just landed today so tomorrows drive to work will be the Seattle gig  :abbath:
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Gibonz on September 19, 2019, 08:59:11 AM
Metallica - Live at The Stone Balloon '89 | 720p60fps [Justice Box Set DVD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgjDKUn455w


Awesome club gig footage at the height of their powers...
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Bogmetaller on September 28, 2019, 07:26:39 AM
https://metallica.com/news/2019-09-27-a-note-from-lars-kirk-and-rob.html

Hetfield back in rehab
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 28, 2019, 08:15:06 AM
Shit one.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 28, 2019, 01:46:04 PM
Character actor preparation for Some Kind of Monster 2??
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Blitzer666 on September 28, 2019, 05:00:53 PM
Happy days, might write some good tunes again with a bottle of absolut down the neck
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Wiseblood on September 28, 2019, 11:57:02 PM
I stupidly went to Slane earlier in the year and the gig seemed so off to me and mainly Hetfield who looked unhealthy and completely zoned out. He looked like even his mid song banter was read off the teleprompter. I felt cheated and robbed at that gig but mainly that Hetfield wasn't at the races. Sad to hear that 18 years after his last crash that here he is again, yet I find it not so much of a shock. I still watch their every move like they're  legends that will bounce back  but when it's a level that eats people alive, they really need go consider stepping away.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Ducky on September 29, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
I'd imagine if he stepped away he'd have less things to focus on and occupy his time, so it'd be easier to get smashed.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Juggz on October 02, 2019, 08:17:13 AM
Maybe he'll rethink the 'tallica brand whiskey and beer? It can't be helpful for an alcoholic to have his own line of booze and have to promote it. Perhaps this time the relentless and shameless pursuit of cash will take second place to his health.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 25, 2023, 03:16:26 PM
Didn't feel like bumping the thread about their last album and didn't want to start a new one, so this'll do: seems Kill 'Em All was released 40 years ago today!  :abbath:
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: KingHostile on July 25, 2023, 03:52:33 PM
No Way......

How good is Seattle / Binge n Purge 3 though!
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Paul keohane on July 25, 2023, 03:55:42 PM
I heard all the early Meatllica albums in quick succession around 1990,my first proper obsession in life id say!.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Bürggermeister on July 25, 2023, 03:56:07 PM
Still a class album. They'd be shit within 10 years, though, but able to stretch an increasingly lucrative career out of it for another 30.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Paul keohane on July 25, 2023, 04:35:42 PM
I still think they missed a trick when releasing st Anger.Since it was 7 years or so since Load,a return if you want to call it.They could have released a half decent metal album and it might have won us over a bit.Instead they hired a crab and the worst drum sound imaginable,good night!
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: Don Gately on August 02, 2023, 12:38:20 PM
Drumming on new album has put me off it too
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: KingHostile on August 02, 2023, 10:34:34 PM
Drumming on the new album is probably (maybe as always) the weakest aspect of it.

I still scratch my head at Hammett's performance. Its just so, uninspired. Like he's trapped in a small Metallica confine. SO disappointed.

Best thing about the album is the regurgitated "No Remorse" riff.....  :laugh:

Hetfield plays well, depending on what your listening to the album on, the tone can be 'ok'.

Rob 'stamped the card' anyway.
Title: Re: Metallica live in Seattle 89
Post by: astfgyl on August 03, 2023, 09:07:43 AM
Actually enjoyed half of a couple of the tunes on the new thing but the sound is fairly bad, mostly stemming from the drums. As Paul is saying there, had they released something like this after Loads then it would've seemed alright but there really was no coming back from st anger unless they tried something new altogether but they really haven't done that at all