caught being a naughty boy yesterday at Capitol Hill...
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-photographed-among-trump-supporters-at-capitol-hill/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-photographed-among-trump-supporters-at-capitol-hill/)
Wonder if Matt Barlow will go arrest him now
Quote from: The Heretic on January 07, 2021, 02:09:53 PM
caught being a naughty boy yesterday at Capitol Hill...
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/07/12/37719698-9121377-image-a-125_1610023167869.jpg)
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-photographed-among-trump-supporters-at-capitol-hill/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-photographed-among-trump-supporters-at-capitol-hill/)
Caught being a legend you mean.
Schaffer is a big fan of Trump because, a little known fact, Don actually tweets in 32nd note triplets.
Gotta love a man that stands by his convictions.
What, this Jon Schaffer?
https://youtu.be/BGZUUfGs6sE
Quote from: Pedrito on January 07, 2021, 03:07:30 PM
Gotta love a man that stands by his convictions.
He has another conviction coming his way anyway.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 07, 2021, 03:01:51 PM
Schaffer is a big fan of Trump because, a little known fact, Don actually tweets in 32nd note triplets.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Rev Biz 'av a dig:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10165099974585647&id=15345610646
Quote from: Carnage on January 07, 2021, 03:57:51 PM
Quote from: Pedrito on January 07, 2021, 03:07:30 PM
Gotta love a man that stands by his convictions.
He has another conviction coming his way anyway.
🤣😆 Nicely put! Unfortunately these people's convictions are totally detached from reality. Pity Jon didn't learn about democracy while he was Live in Athens.
Saw the picture last night and it reminded me more of the rednecks in South Park protesting that "they took aargh jaabs!" than anything else. Pathetic behaviour that should have been prevented and clamped down on. 4 lives wasted and hospitalisations all for a privileged plonker who can't accept he got his P45.
Edit: 5 lives wasted now.
So no new iced earth album anytime soon then? Or maybe a live one like Jonny cash did?
Seems the police want him in for questioning, doesn't seem like it's going to go well for him
Cool ass mofo got his own meme page... :abbath:
https://metalinjection.net/around-the-interwebs/the-best-jon-schaffer-memes-on-the-internet-right-now
The person of interest reference :laugh: Some gems there in fairness about the irrational hot-headed redneck.
Corpsegrinder's kid obviously inherited his neck.
Poor child!
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I'm quite surprised we haven't had any of our usual puns that come out when things like this happen. We should be 5 pages deep by now.
Maybe when he's in jail and when the night falls... something wicked will be watching over him and go into his bunk....Violate
And then when the eagle cries....
Actually maybe not quite as easy..
ok.....Night of the Storming
Brainwashed
Dystopia
The Devil to Pay
Burning Times
The Path I Choose
Disciples of the Lie
Cunt doesn't even need the puns.
How about that album of there's....
The Dark Maga?
😆 now we're rolling!
10,000 Mongs
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on January 08, 2021, 03:36:58 PM
How about that album of there's....
The Dark Maga?
pure class!!!
Quote from: jobrok1 on January 08, 2021, 01:29:46 PM
Corpsegrinder's kid obviously inherited his neck.
Poor child!
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Must've been like giving birth to a sausage with legs for the mother
The Glorious Break-In
Quote from: Ducky on January 08, 2021, 03:15:06 PM
Brainwashed
Dystopia
The Devil to Pay
Burning Times
The Path I Choose
Disciples of the Lie
Cunt doesn't even need the puns.
Ducky's back!!!!!
Only band I've ever seen to actually come back out after an encore with the crowd were chanting 'one more tune', and they only played focking Pure Evil.
Schaffer can do what he wants he gets a pass from me after that
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-says-u-s-was-hijacked-by-thugs-and-criminals-theyre-messing-with-the-wrong-people-here/
Fucking hell, I think he should be given the benefit of the mental health issues excuse
Quote from: Trev on January 09, 2021, 12:20:08 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-says-u-s-was-hijacked-by-thugs-and-criminals-theyre-messing-with-the-wrong-people-here/
Fucking hell, I think he should be given the benefit of the mental health issues excuse
Why? He's pissed off with what's happening, and rightfully so.
Ah yeah, well at least he's done his part now to stand up against the secret shadow mafia that's running the world
Yep, a true patriot. The world needs more like him.
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 09, 2021, 12:35:43 PM
Quote from: Trev on January 09, 2021, 12:20:08 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-says-u-s-was-hijacked-by-thugs-and-criminals-theyre-messing-with-the-wrong-people-here/
Fucking hell, I think he should be given the benefit of the mental health issues excuse
Why? He's pissed off with what's happening, and rightfully so.
Pissed off at what exactly. They they didn't win a fair election? Or is it something else?
Has he been caught yet? There's tonnes of people grassing him up in twitter. Must be making him feel a little melancholy
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on January 09, 2021, 11:08:05 PM
Has he been caught yet? There's tonnes of people grassing him up in twitter. Must be making him feel a little melancholy
A few of the others they're looking for have been, probably reaching the end looking for him
He's on the FBI most wanted list now. Wonder what the rest of the band are going to do when the main guy's stuck in prison for riotous sedition against the country.
They've released a very noncommittal statement:
Quote“We want to thank those of you who have sent words of support in recent days. Some of you have been concerned by our silence, which we understand. We needed some time to properly process the information and find out some facts before we made a statement.
“First and foremost we absolutely DO NOT condone nor do we support riots or the acts of violence that the rioters were involved in on January 6th at the US Capitol building. We hope that all those involved that day are brought to justice to be investigated and answer for their actions.
“With broken hearts we are sending our love and compassion to everyone who has felt pain from the events on January 6th. We are deeply saddened and our hearts go out to the families of the lives lost that day. There are really no proper words to console. Just know we are with you in your shock, grief and pain. Much love to you all.”
Sounds like they're hedging their bets by not actually saying anything against Schaffer personally, but they know they're gonna be out of work for a while.
At the end of the day, Iced Earth is a 1 man band with hired hands. The amount of people who've been in the band make 80s Sabbath seem stable.
They don't want to lose their jobs but really they know this could be it for Iced Earth judging by the people who are abanding them.
Anyone at the Belfast gig back in 2012?
Well Stu Block has changed his profile to "freelance singer/vocalist" and removed any reference to being in Iced Earth, so I'm guessing he's out
The rest will follow soon maybe.
I stand alone, eh, Jon?
Never in my life would I have seen so much knicker wetting by a bunch of Irish metallers. Its like reading twitter.
He stuck up for what he believes in, so fair fucks to him.
Suppose all the lady boys on here moaning supported illegal blm protests throughout the world?
His band will most likely get more fans, rather than the soys that are burning his cds.
As for people naming family, friends, employees at the protest, fuck me, thats what Germany did to their fellow country men.
Massive lol
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 13, 2021, 12:39:37 PM
Never in my life would I have seen so much knicker wetting by a bunch of Irish metallers. Its like reading twitter.
He stuck up for what he believes in, so fair fucks to him.
Suppose all the lady boys on here moaning supported illegal blm protests throughout the world?
His band will most likely get more fans, rather than the soys that are burning his cds.
As for people naming family, friends, employees at the protest, fuck me, thats what Germany did to their fellow country men.
Sniffing their nail varnish, softens the brain.
Every single belief that BLM might conceivably encompass, even if taken from the perspective of their strongest opponents, is still less of a falsehood than Trump's "The election was stolen from us!" line. So yeah, fair fucks to him for sticking up for what he believes in, but, echoing wee Led Zep above, massive lol at the thing that he chose to believe in!
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 13, 2021, 12:55:54 PM
Every single belief that BLM might conceivably encompass, even if taken from the perspective of their strongest opponents, is still less of a falsehood than Trump's "The election was stolen from us!" line. So yeah, fair fucks to him for sticking up for what he believes in, but, echoing wee Led Zep above, massive lol at the thing that he chose to believe in!
As if it was only simply that.
It's certainly pretty much the only thing Trump waffled on about for over an hour when kicking off the march that culminated in the invasion.
So these people thet spent the last 7 months sitting by watching the other side tear up anything in their wake and Burn Loot Murder their way across the country had nothing to do with it?
The only reason Capitol Building wasn't smashed into before last Wednesday was because there was no Nike or flat screen TVs lying around en masse.
Seriously lad, you do nothing to dispel the 'myth' that Liberalism is indeed, a sickness.
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 13, 2021, 01:17:00 PM
The only reason Capitol Building wasn't smashed into before last Wednesday was because there was no Nike or flat screen TVs lying around en masse.
I think there might have been more to
that than what you say...
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Trump invited them to Washington to help fight the "stolen election", then he talked to them for over an hour about how the election had been "stolen", and then he set them on their merry way up to the Capitol, with the glorious burden of a massive falsehood on their shoulders.
The guy believes in something and put his money where his mouth is. Fair play to him. I don't necessarily agree but there's an awful lot of wafflers out there and Schaeffer obviously a man who doesn't mess around. He took Iced Earth from nothing to a world renowned band, playing a style of music that had arguably had its day. He's ballsy.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 13, 2021, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 13, 2021, 01:17:00 PM
The only reason Capitol Building wasn't smashed into before last Wednesday was because there was no Nike or flat screen TVs lying around en masse.
I think there might have been more to that than what you say...
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Trump invited them to Washington to help fight the "stolen election", then he talked to them for over an hour about how the election had been "stolen", and then he set them on their merry way up to the Capitol, with the glorious burden of a massive falsehood on their shoulders.
And they managed to just basically dander past these soldiers and police, its almost like they were allowed to get into the buildings..........
Cant wait for the world riots in the killing by cops of unarmed, white Ashli babbitt.
Maybe she'll be painted on free derry wall.
Sure he believes in something, that there's a secret society running the entire world, that rigged the election to get Trump out because he's fighting against them, but yet despite being all powerful they couldn't do anything to stop Trump becoming president in the first place...I don't really think fair fucks to him for standing up for that, I think he's just a bit off his rocker
Still, it's not going to stop me listening to Iced Earth, or buying their stuff, or going to see them whenever gigs are back.
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 13, 2021, 02:55:27 PM
And they managed to just basically dander past these soldiers and police, its almost like they were allowed to get into the buildings..........
That's a photo from, I think, June, when the big guns were called in to protect the Capitol from BLM rioters. This wasn't done when Trump invited his personal citizen vanguard to town.
There's definitely somethihg strange about the fact that they were allowed to just waltz into that building. I think they've become pawns in this eternal wankology that is Republican vs Democrat. I understand people are pissed off. How could they not be pissed off when we look at the disgrace for leadership that comes from both parties. Even this week they were voting on not including the words mother and sons and daughters in (I think) the congress(need some fact checking there), right in the middle of a flippin pandemic. There's something seriously wrong with the powers that be and they desperately, desperately need a massive overhaul.
Kev and Chris for Unity 2021?
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 13, 2021, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 13, 2021, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 13, 2021, 01:17:00 PM
The only reason Capitol Building wasn't smashed into before last Wednesday was because there was no Nike or flat screen TVs lying around en masse.
I think there might have been more to that than what you say...
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Trump invited them to Washington to help fight the "stolen election", then he talked to them for over an hour about how the election had been "stolen", and then he set them on their merry way up to the Capitol, with the glorious burden of a massive falsehood on their shoulders.
And they managed to just basically dander past these soldiers and police, its almost like they were allowed to get into the buildings..........
Cant wait for the world riots in the killing by cops of unarmed, white Ashli babbitt.
Maybe she'll be painted on free derry wall.
As Chris said that's from BLM in the summer. There was only 200 capitol police on duty the day of the insurrection.
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 13, 2021, 02:55:27 PM
And they managed to just basically dander past these soldiers and police, its almost like they were allowed to get into the buildings..........
Cant wait for the world riots in the killing by cops of unarmed, white Ashli babbitt.
Maybe she'll be painted on free derry wall.
Seeing as you didn't know that the picture was far removed from 6 January, I presume you haven't seen the antics of the people trying to break down the doors, didn't hear the shouts that guns are being pointed from the other side 20 seconds beforehand, and she still tries to climb through the window?
Agents showed too much restraint - the lads with the flagpole and helmet belting in the windows should have been downed first and she could have followed then if she still really wanted to get through the window so much.
So yeah far from an innocent bystander, but you can cry her a river if you want, because Trump, Giulani (sic) etc sure won't after instigating that farce and yet wiping their hands of it. I'll save my sympathy for the cops who were crushed, pulled apart or indeed killed from a bash over the head with a fire extinguisher, and even the other pawns who were caught up in it and lost their lives. But thanks for the LOL in your previous post.
Back to topic, Jon sees commies under the bed in all this as well in his German TV rant, which seems at odds with his other views. I think the guy needs to get a hobby and destress a fair bit. But then that's playing into the hands of the lizard people etc as that's exactly want "they" want us to do. Ah sure look it, he might get just one Pepsi and figure it out for himself while he's locked away...
Yeah bizarre carry on from so called partriots. Trump has driven both sides mental, it seems. He has whipped his fanatics into a frenzy which has resulted in the same sort of lunacy he was accusing BLM for engaging in. I listened to Sam Harris's take on things earlier and he made a salient point. If you think that rioting and tearing apart people's businesses and defunding the police is a good idea, you're in a cult. If you think that storming the Capitol Building to "Stop the Steal" is a good idea, you're part of a cult. There are always extremists on the fringes of the left and right, but the D-Bag has a special talent for sending the maniacs over the edge.
I still don't believe he is a fascist. I don't think he is that tactical. I think he's a mouth and a completely self serving sociopath, but he would have run as a democrat if the wind was blowing in that direction.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 13, 2021, 08:12:12 PM
I still don't believe he is a fascist. I don't think he is that tactical. I think he's a mouth and a completely self serving sociopath, but he would have run as a democrat if the wind was blowing in that direction.
That's about it. Sure he's contributed donations to the Democrats in the past.
I watched the coverage the other night and what seems to be lost upon all the suits that frown and bang the drum about how Trump is Satan in rested form etc is that the majority of the people involved in the invasion are genuinely pissed off.
Long sentence I know. A vast cross section of the people involved in the storming of the capitol were interviewed by different news outlets. They firmly believe this conspiracy is real and they have been wronged greatly. My descriptions of the actions are loose and for that I apologise.
All the Joe Biden speeches calling for peace and unity will not calm or take away from the rage they feel.
Right or wrong some point someone that's not another fuckin lo laa will have to listen and try and reason with this section of society.
Iced Earth John can bang all he wants as long as he is ready to deal with whatever consequences follow.
Quote from: Snare on January 13, 2021, 08:00:06 PM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 13, 2021, 02:55:27 PM
And they managed to just basically dander past these soldiers and police, its almost like they were allowed to get into the buildings..........
Cant wait for the world riots in the killing by cops of unarmed, white Ashli babbitt.
Maybe she'll be painted on free derry wall.
Seeing as you didn't know that the picture was far removed from 6 January, I presume you haven't seen the antics of the people trying to break down the doors, didn't hear the shouts that guns are being pointed from the other side 20 seconds beforehand, and she still tries to climb through the window?
Agents showed too much restraint - the lads with the flagpole and helmet belting in the windows should have been downed first and she could have followed then if she still really wanted to get through the window so much.
So yeah far from an innocent bystander, but you can cry her a river if you want, because Trump, Giulani (sic) etc sure won't after instigating that farce and yet wiping their hands of it. I'll save my sympathy for the cops who were crushed, pulled apart or indeed killed from a bash over the head with a fire extinguisher, and even the other pawns who were caught up in it and lost their lives. But thanks for the LOL in your previous post.
Back to topic, Jon sees commies under the bed in all this as well in his German TV rant, which seems at odds with his other views. I think the guy needs to get a hobby and destress a fair bit. But then that's playing into the hands of the lizard people etc as that's exactly want "they" want us to do. Ah sure look it, he might get just one Pepsi and figure it out for himself while he's locked away...
Are u actually for real?
Thank fuck it wasn't blm antifa lefties or the building would've been burnt to the ground.
Lefties on here are hilarious, I take it u are 12?
Very heavy metal bro.
As real as election results boss.
Your support and justification for such actions because of what you think others would have done in the same scenario is a childish position. What makes you think I'd support the same bullshit behaviour if it was BLM actions?
As with your sexist nonsense in the LOL post, if you're worried about who listens to heavy metal then it says more about you than anything. I think I'll get over the fact that I don't meet your "standards". Crush cans dude!
Ah here, leave the cans out of it!
:laugh: the thread needed your wit!
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 13, 2021, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 13, 2021, 01:17:00 PM
The only reason Capitol Building wasn't smashed into before last Wednesday was because there was no Nike or flat screen TVs lying around en masse.
I think there might have been more to that than what you say...
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Trump invited them to Washington to help fight the "stolen election", then he talked to them for over an hour about how the election had been "stolen", and then he set them on their merry way up to the Capitol, with the glorious burden of a massive falsehood on their shoulders.
One set was a bunch of layabout whinging thieving burning scumbags.
The other, hard working, tax paying people who actually pay for the upkeep of their town and cities, and indeed the Capitol Building.
U do know once freedom of speech is gone, its not coming back, which is the main aim here.
The lefties haven't actually thought of that yet.
The hatefulness of them is wild, they literally wanna see trump and his family hung in the streets.
When u hear that sorta shit against someone u strongly believe in, would u not be angry??
All the goalpost movers in one place now!
This police beater paid his taxes! They literally want to lynch Ivanka! In a parallel universe, BLM would have burnt the whole city down and shat on the ashes...they have to be held accountable for that in this universe!!
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 14, 2021, 08:51:35 AM
All the goalpost movers in one place now!
This police beater paid his taxes! They literally want to lynch Ivanka! In a parallel universe, BLM would have burnt the whole city down and shat on the ashes...they have to be held accountable for that in this universe!!
:laugh: Give your head a good wobble lad...
Will that help level the playing field??
Ain't no playing field boy. It's a WAR field!
Someone took someone's jaaaaawb.
It feels like everyone is up for a fight and picking the side of the most outraged.
After watching CNN's coverage of the impeachment vote last night it again re-affirmed how woeful they are. Worse than Fox News.
At least Fox News revel in their ridiculous pomp whilst the others wring their hands and rub ashes on their faces crying over the death of liberal America.
That powder keg of a nation always seems to be poised on the brink of destruction. It only took an orange face with large hair to set it off last week.
Quote from: Circlepit on January 14, 2021, 09:28:00 AM
whilst the others wring their hands and rub ashes on their faces crying over the death of liberal America.
That powder keg of a nation always seems to be poised on the brink of destruction. It only took an orange face with large hair to set it off last week.
:laugh:
Wonderful turns of phrase! 8) Don't tell me, you've dug out your copy of Soundings for the home-schooling? :laugh:
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 14, 2021, 07:05:49 AM
U do know once freedom of speech is gone, its not coming back, which is the main aim here.
The lefties haven't actually thought of that yet.
The hatefulness of them is wild, they literally wanna see trump and his family hung in the streets.
When u hear that sorta shit against someone u strongly believe in, would u not be angry??
Hi, this is the CEO-Leader of Antifa.
I'm not saying you're not allowed to say what you're saying here, but I'm also not saying I don't have my finger on the button to put you on the list for a 6 month shift on our organic farm commune.
Have a lovely day, I'm off to listen to some Woody Guthrie and do a bit of my daily cancelling.
Well this thread has turned into an even bigger shit show than the actual Trump one in the off topic. The strawmen arguments and false equivalence going on would give you brain worms.
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 14, 2021, 07:05:49 AM
U do know once freedom of speech is gone, its not coming back, which is the main aim here.
The lefties haven't actually thought of that yet.
The hatefulness of them is wild, they literally wanna see trump and his family hung in the streets.
When u hear that sorta shit against someone u strongly believe in, would u not be angry??
Both far left and far right are fucking numptys. And you have freedom to speech. Anyone can say whatever the fuck they want. But if you spout fucking nonsense, or hatred, don't be surprised if you get blowback.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 14, 2021, 09:33:23 AM
Quote from: Circlepit on January 14, 2021, 09:28:00 AM
whilst the others wring their hands and rub ashes on their faces crying over the death of liberal America.
That powder keg of a nation always seems to be poised on the brink of destruction. It only took an orange face with large hair to set it off last week.
:laugh:
Wonderful turns of phrase! 8) Don't tell me, you've dug out your copy of Soundings for the home-schooling? :laugh:
Why thank you. No Soundings just home schooling at it's finest!
Apparently they still haven't caught Jon.
Think this could be the end of Iced Earth? I imagine if they carried on they probably couldn't get arrested.
I know I'm going to regret posting this. Radical leftists have been smashing, burning and looting their way through American cities for well over a year now. They took over police stations and hilariously tried to form a little breakaway state. Not saying these wombles are any better (should have been shot) but there is a major double standard at play.
Knuckles crack in SW France :laugh:
Not sure about the double standards - who here is supporting the radical leftist actions elsewhere? Thread here is / was about a metal figure partaking in some highly questionable actions, effectively trying to stop free speech by others and prevent them going about their business.
If there was a metal figure on the radical left pictured leading the charge in the same high profile circumstances I can't see it being trumpeted as "right on bro, fight the power, putting it to the man".
Trying to justify it or excuse it because others may have done the same doesn't make it acceptable at all. It really does speak of children where they try to justify their poor behaviour because "he did it first, it's not fair!".
Anyway, enough of yankee actions creating a cesspit of polarisation here!
True that. The ballbag behaviour on both sides is desperate and using the other side's low standards as your own barometer is unacceptable and, as you said, childish. Where are the grown ups?
Quote from: Snare on January 15, 2021, 10:14:01 PM
Not sure about the double standards - who here is supporting the radical leftist actions elsewhere? Thread here is / was about a metal figure partaking in some highly questionable actions, effectively trying to stop free speech by others and prevent them going about their business.
If there was a metal figure on the radical left pictured leading the charge in the same high profile circumstances I can't see it being trumpeted as "right on bro, fight the power, putting it to the man".
Trying to justify it or excuse it because others may have done the same doesn't make it acceptable at all. It really does speak of children where they try to justify their poor behaviour because "he did it first, it's not fair!".
Anyway, enough of yankee actions creating a cesspit of polarisation here!
100% to all this.
Loud American shouting and acting aggressively, talking a load of conspiracy spoof. Who cares, move on.
Alive in Athens a great listen in fairness. Talk about a complete package. I remember buying the 3cd version and thinking how the hell any band wluld put so much material on one release. Classic stuff.
Quote from: Pedrito on January 16, 2021, 12:23:05 AM
Alive in Athens a great listen in fairness. Talk about a complete package. I remember buying the 3cd version and thinking how the hell any band wluld put so much material on one release. Classic stuff.
My 'go to' release from Iced Earth.
Amazing stuff!
He's been arrested:
https://www.wishtv.com/news/local-news/columbus-native-and-musician-jon-schaffer-arrested-for-role-in-capitol-riot/
I dreamed I was listening to Alive In Athens and all!
When they get to questioning him.
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Something tells me he's going to get a very long stretch behind bars. If for no other reason than to deter other like minded morons from pulling similar stunts.
Wonder if the rest of the band will pull a thin lizzy or is Iced Earth on ice.
I doubt they will wait for years until he gets out
I'd say he owns all the rights.
They're sure to set up Spliced Earth or whatever if their recent form is anything to go by. Who needs enemies with friends like that?
Quote from: hellfire on January 18, 2021, 11:12:37 AM
I doubt they will wait for years until he gets out
Maybe he'll reform the band in prison? Find a couple of cons who can play a few instruments and off you go.
Demons and Prisoners
Days of Solitary
Raping Stone
Jesus the puns just aren't flowing these days
Think the iron maiden fishing ones were the best
Hopefully a GoFundMe will be set up for the release of this absolute legend of a man.
A true Power Metal warrior.... :abbath:
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 19, 2021, 07:29:54 AM
Hopefully a GoFundMe will be set up for the release of this absolute legend of a man.
A true Power Metal warrior.... :abbath:
Would you contribute?
That's where all his saved pennies are going!
Quote from: The Heretic on January 19, 2021, 09:37:47 AM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 19, 2021, 07:29:54 AM
Hopefully a GoFundMe will be set up for the release of this absolute legend of a man.
A true Power Metal warrior.... :abbath:
Would you contribute?
Yes, and you guys can send your contributions to Jon through me if you want to.....
@ honest.abdul@paypal.com
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 19, 2021, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: The Heretic on January 19, 2021, 09:37:47 AM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 19, 2021, 07:29:54 AM
Hopefully a GoFundMe will be set up for the release of this absolute legend of a man.
A true Power Metal warrior.... :abbath:
Would you contribute?
Yes, and you guys can send your contributions to Jon through me if you want to.....
@ honest.abdul@paypal.com
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :abbath:
Signed bar of soap with the die-hard edition of the next album.
That'll be $120.....
@ honest.abdul@paypal.com
I wonder how much the old kneecap would fetch. Was there from the start, early demos, barroom brawls etc. Must be worth at least 50k.
Century Media pulled all of their Iced Earth & Demons and Wizards stuff. Seems a little harsh to be honest, but it's their money.
No doubt it's in anticipation of all the blue haired Metal heads losing their shit.
From iced earth to iced arse.
Watch prices on Ebay and Discogs skyrocket. Just bought the 3 disc Alive In Athens earlier, coincidentally.
Quote from: hellfire on January 19, 2021, 04:57:16 PM
Century Media pulled all of their Iced Earth & Demons and Wizards stuff. Seems a little harsh to be honest, but it's their money.
Harsh for the other fella in Demons and wizards. Like your mate shits in your teachers lunch box and you both get detention.
As it should be. One in, all in....
They've disappeared from the band roster on the label homepage. No statement about them actually being dumped yet or not though. Agonia can pick them up if they are dropped!
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 19, 2021, 05:00:48 PM
No doubt it's in anticipation of all the blue haired Metal heads losing their shit.
Blabbermouth and Metalsucks must be having an absolute ball at the moment.
Quote from: hellfire on January 19, 2021, 06:40:22 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 19, 2021, 05:00:48 PM
No doubt it's in anticipation of all the blue haired Metal heads losing their shit.
Blabbermouth and Metalsucks must be having an absolute ball at the moment.
Non-plural being the operative form...
None of this makes me any more or less likely to listen to their records, but that's a shit move from Century Media. That label was pretty much built off Iced Earth's back.
It seems nothing can abate the screaming wailing crybaby masses.
Did iced earth have an album already recorded or is the 2017 one the last?
I mean he's entitled to stand up for his rights/beliefs etc etc...but was he really that blinded to the fact that something like this wouldn't impact on his professional career as a musician? If he's willing to take the hit then good luck to him..if not then he's just gonna have to live with it and roll out plan B..if he has one...
I'd say he knew very well what he was getting into. We're just so used to going along with everything in this part of the world that we believe this is somehow horrific. Both my parents were at the burning of the British embassy in 1972. They are about as non violent as it gets but sometimes enough is enough and the powers that be need to know that people aren't willing to sit around and watch shit take its course. After the madbess that raged throughout the US last year it was only a matter of time before there was a reaction to it. Whether you agree with it or not is something else entirely, but it was certainly inevitable. Personally I think it's not necessarily a bad thing to give the system a jolt every now and then, let them know they're only there because the people put them there.
Exactly. It's very easy for snivelling shits to condemn the man from the safety a keyboard in their cum dungeon.
He condemned himself for being a stupid prick and rioting with the rest of the Freedumb Fashbois.
Still don't see how you can reconcile talking about sticking it to "the powers that be" in the context of people who were literally following the articulated whims of the (then) President of the United States of America.
Leave my cum dungeon out of it.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 20, 2021, 02:24:44 PM
Still don't see how you can reconcile talking about sticking it to "the powers that be" in the context of people who were literally following the articulated whims of the (then) President of the United States of America.
He was never allowed to be the president of America by the lizard establishment: Pelosi and the likes. I thought you believed in anarchism or something along those lines, not propping up these fatcat career politicians?
The burden of proof isn't on this side though; what actual actions did he want to effect as President that he was prevented from doing by the democratic wing of the lizard establishment? He got executive orders through against lobbying (now revoked); he got a travel ban through; he supposedly made tremendous progress with his ludicrous wall project...or didn't he? So, what concrete things was he "not allowed" to do?
I'm not propping up anyone, but you are propping up Trump, and it's very mysterious. Obama's final two years were against a Republican Senate and House majority, with Mitch McConnell (by his own admission moreover) being to him what you claim Pelosi was to Trump. Cast your eyes back a bit: https://www.epi.org/blog/policy-watch-congress-blocks-14-obama-era-rules-in-an-unprecedented-blitz-of-cra-votes/
So, was Trump "not allowed" be President any more than any other President working against an opposing majority (for the short time that he was)? Or is this just a BS narrative concocted to gloss over the fact that he was just politically incompetent and more concerned about his personal image than anything else? He had the double (senate & house) majority on his side for a considerable amount of time.
Quote from: Pedrito on January 20, 2021, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 20, 2021, 02:24:44 PM
Still don't see how you can reconcile talking about sticking it to "the powers that be" in the context of people who were literally following the articulated whims of the (then) President of the United States of America.
He was never allowed to be the president of America by the lizard establishment: Pelosi and the likes. I thought you believed in anarchism or something along those lines, not propping up these fatcat career politicians?
He was Preident and the republicans had control of the Senate. He just did absolutely fucking nothing with that control cause he was fucking useless. Christ like totally inept but as always, it's someone else fault.
Edit. May he he'll release his fabled new Medicare plan. Every week. It's just around the corner. Ya right.
You two would want to go and have a hold hands session somewhere. All this drama must be very hard on the old hearts.
Having never given them a go before, listened to the first album today and really enjoyed it.
And when put up against Lil Wayne's acclaimed album 'Carter III' I think Schaffer should feel hard done by not receiving a pardon.
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on January 20, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
He condemned himself for being a stupid prick and rioting with the rest of the Freedumb Fashbois.
Freedumb fashbois? What does that even mean? Did u get that from your antifa fanboy Facebook?
Have to chuckle at the schoolkids on here and their anti trump fists in the air.
Who will CNN,BBC,C4 Have as their pantomime villain now that trumps gone?
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 20, 2021, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on January 20, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
He condemned himself for being a stupid prick and rioting with the rest of the Freedumb Fashbois.
Freedumb fashbois? What does that even mean? Did u get that from your antifa fanboy Facebook?
Have to chuckle at the schoolkids on here and their anti trump fists in the air.
Who will CNN,BBC,C4 Have as their pantomime villain now that trumps gone?
Sure you're one for trotting out the cliches yourself. And my opinion of Trump doesn't come from news channels. I judge the actions of the person. Which were totally inept.
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 20, 2021, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on January 20, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
He condemned himself for being a stupid prick and rioting with the rest of the Freedumb Fashbois.
Freedumb fashbois? What does that even mean? Did u get that from your antifa fanboy Facebook?
Have to chuckle at the schoolkids on here and their anti trump fists in the air.
Who will CNN,BBC,C4 Have as their pantomime villain now that trumps gone?
Well, the BBC and C4 still have Boris Johnson, so...
Vocalist and bass player have handed in their notices.
QuoteFederal investigators believe Jon Schaffer sprayed U.S. Capitol Police with "bear spray" as he and other rioters forced their way into the Capitol building. Photographs from that day allegedly show Schaffer wearing a tactical vest with a baseball cap that read "Oath Keepers Lifetime Member." The Oath Keepers is a far-right militia that is known to target and recruit law enforcement and military personnel. According to court documents, Schaffer traveled to Washington, D.C., with other Oath Keepers shortly after the 2020 election to participate in the "Million MAGA March." In an interview that day, he was asked if he expected the protests to be violent. "If somebody wants to bring violence, I think there's a lot of us here that are ready for it," he said. "We don't want that, but if they bring it we're going to respond to that, trust me." Schaffer is the front man for the heavy metal band "Iced Earth," and according to court documents "has long held far-right extremist views." He has referred to himself as an "anarchist" and called the goverment a "criminal enterprise.".
Federal: Knowingly Entering or Remaining in any Restricted Building or Grounds Without Lawful Authority; Disrupting the Orderly Conduct of Government Business; Knowingly Engages in an Act of Physical Violence Against Any Person or Property in any Restricted Building or Grounds; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Engage in an Act of Physical Violence in a Capitol Building; Parade, Demonstrate, or Picket in a Capitol Building.
From the database at the bottom of this article: https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories?t=1614790433756
I'd imagine that some of the latter charges will see him put away for a while.
Jailhouse rock time
https://www.metalblast.net/blog/the-fall-of-jon-schaffer/
Thought this was a pretty good synopsis
He's become the first defendant to cop a plea:
https://www.ghostcultmag.com/jon-schaffer-of-iced-earth-pleads-guilty-to-two-charges-for-his-role-in-the-capitol-riot/
Still looking at heavy jail time.
This is hilarious, a Facebook group called Jon Schaffer Loyalists:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/713805425994287/?ref=share
Quote from: Carnage on April 29, 2023, 02:57:51 PMThis is hilarious, a Facebook group called Jon Schaffer Loyalists:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/713805425994287/?ref=share
That is unintentional comedy gold. No doubt half of the dinguses posting on it have no clue what hijinks he got upto.
https://blabbermouth.net/news/jon-schaffer-on-his-involvement-in-u-s-capitol-riot-i-was-wrong-and-i-made-a-terrible-mistake
He's terribly sorry, and he's got a new church to help him. I fucking knew he'd come out of this claiming to have found Jesus
Pissy little bitch got away with (almost) murder. "Disciples of the Lie", indeed Jon, in-fucking-deed.
He's a snitch!😂
Christian metal album pending. He'll make a fortune off the super churches.
Watching over CCTV
I lied for you
He found jesus and has turned into Colonel Sanders, still utterly fucking deluded. Next album should be a doozy, I reckon :abbath:
(https://bravewords.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/jonschaffer425-750x416.jpg)
https://blabbermouth.net/news/jon-schaffer-opens-up-about-his-involvement-in-u-s-capitol-riot-and-his-faith-journey-its-just-amazing-the-way-god-works
All these fuckwits seem to be finding our lord.
QuoteSpeaking to the It Is Later Than You Think podcast of Cornerstone Church
So he's become an End Times cult member, in other words, along with a huge proportion of MAGA supporters.
Don't forget to check out that Praying For Armageddon doc if ye still haven't, uploaded in two parts on Al Jazeera's YT channel:
Part 1: https://youtu.be/IhT7oyDlBIk?si=j6a2R_2JHZb75m1U
Part 2: https://youtu.be/_iQhbcOgfqw?si=4ISWZj_xElvu1OOG
Band changing name to Nice Shirt
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 03, 2025, 01:39:54 PMQuoteSpeaking to the It Is Later Than You Think podcast of Cornerstone Church
So he's become an End Times cult member, in other words, along with a huge proportion of MAGA supporters.
Don't forget to check out that Praying For Armageddon doc if ye still haven't, uploaded in two parts on Al Jazeera's YT channel:
Part 1: https://youtu.be/IhT7oyDlBIk?si=j6a2R_2JHZb75m1U
Part 2: https://youtu.be/_iQhbcOgfqw?si=4ISWZj_xElvu1OOG
All them militia lads tend to be.
Christ Earth.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on April 03, 2025, 03:16:48 PMQuote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 03, 2025, 01:39:54 PMQuoteSpeaking to the It Is Later Than You Think podcast of Cornerstone Church
So he's become an End Times cult member, in other words, along with a huge proportion of MAGA supporters.
Don't forget to check out that Praying For Armageddon doc if ye still haven't, uploaded in two parts on Al Jazeera's YT channel:
Part 1: https://youtu.be/IhT7oyDlBIk?si=j6a2R_2JHZb75m1U
Part 2: https://youtu.be/_iQhbcOgfqw?si=4ISWZj_xElvu1OOG
All them militia lads tend to be.
Will take more than jesus to save those cunts
What a hypocritical little bitch.
Quote from: Ducky on April 03, 2025, 05:25:57 PMWhat a hypocritical little bitch.
And he was snitching once the Feds had him too.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 03, 2025, 01:39:54 PMDon't forget to check out that Praying For Armageddon doc if ye still haven't, uploaded in two parts on Al Jazeera's YT channel:
Part 1: https://youtu.be/IhT7oyDlBIk?si=j6a2R_2JHZb75m1U
Part 2: https://youtu.be/_iQhbcOgfqw?si=4ISWZj_xElvu1OOG
They're not
completely nuts, in fairness... I mean... at least they're not covid deniers :abbath:
not watching 2 hrs of that..any mention of any new music in it?
Quote from: londonleatherboy on April 04, 2025, 09:01:44 AMnot watching 2 hrs of that..any mention of any new music in it?
He does briefly mention writing new music "to glorify God", if that whets your appetite any further