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Title: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 09:34:07 PM
I know there was a thread on here before about The SFX and it was great to chat about gigs from the 80's and 90's.
Some of the best gigs I went to were in McGonagle's and looking through this Classic Dublin Gigs page I stumbled upon I didn't realise that I seen so many great bands there.

https://www.facebook.com/ClassicDublinGigs/
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: mugz on June 04, 2020, 10:05:37 PM
the top hat was an adventure playground for kids birthdays by the time I was around, only found out years later all the punk and metal bands that played dun laoghaire
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 10:12:22 PM
Quote from: mugz on June 04, 2020, 10:05:37 PM
the top hat was an adventure playground for kids birthdays by the time I was around, only found out years later all the punk and metal bands that played dun laoghaire
My first ever 'proper' gig was in The Top Hat. It was Anthrax and such a pity they got spat off stage after 5 or 6 songs. Saw a few gigs there thoug, it was rough but good craic.
Saw Sepultura there on the Beneath The Remains tour. Andreas gave me a can of Smithwicks out the back afterwards when we met and chatted (in their broken English) with the band for ages afterwards.
They were genuinely blown away yo be in Europe on tour. You could tell they were just music fans like ourselves. Great times....
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Carnage on June 04, 2020, 10:19:25 PM
Mordred (supported by Atom Seed) and Paradise Lost (Gothic tour, I think Benediction were supposed to support but didn't make it) were the only gigs I was at in McGonagle's. Sweaty place, two great gigs despite being mugged outside both (though they got nothing), presumably why I didn't go there again, I was in my early/mid-teens for those.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: mugz on June 04, 2020, 10:20:37 PM
the late 80s and early 90s were heaven for me despite being too young for most of the stuff going on; it just had some kind of special feeling, music in the air literally and figuratively
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: astfgyl on June 04, 2020, 10:25:38 PM
I was too young for McGonagles, The Top Hat and The Tivoli. Did make it to the SFX a couple of times though. Some shithole but that was probably part of the charm
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: Carnage on June 04, 2020, 10:19:25 PM
Mordred (supported by Atom Seed) and Paradise Lost (Gothic tour, I think Benediction were supposed to support but didn't make it) were the only gigs I was at in McGonagle's. Sweaty place, two great gigs despite being mugged outside both (though they got nothing), presumably why I didn't go there again, I was in my early/mid-teens for those.
Was at those two gigs also. Scott Holderby (Mordred singer) made a nice acknowledgement of Phil Lynott which went down well with the crowd. Can't remember which Lizzy song they played though.
We brought a few lads that were in a Sisters of Mercy type band to that Paradise Lost gig on the back of them loving Gothic when we played them the album when it came out. Such a disappointment when PL's 'ferry didn't make it over' for the gig...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: mugz on June 04, 2020, 10:28:12 PM
surrounded by beautiful buildings the sfx was just a random cash and carry warehouse  :laugh: it was so rickety but it made for the perfect northside dublin 80s and 90s experience
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 10:57:10 PM
I get misty eyed at the thoughts of those days  :laugh:

My first gig was Megadeth and Sanctuary in the Olympic Ballroom but, after that, it was Top Hat and McGonagles all the way. I saw very few gigs in the SFX ,thankfully, it was a kip. If I can recall correctly and hopefully in some sort of order...

McGonagles:
Predator & Tomorrow's World
Acid Reign & Killerwatt (?)
Sabbat & Xentrix
Slammer & ...?
Gang Green & Meliah Rage
DRI & ...?
Deicide (Cancer were supposed to support but no show)
Acid Reign (again) & Amnesia
Xentrix & Moral Crusade (?)
Sacred Reich & Atrophy
Ozzy - both gigs
Xentrix (again) & Treason (?)
The Almighty & Predator (?)
Death & Loudblast
Massacre, Morgoth & Immolation (The ticket says Devastation but I saw Immolation in McGonagles and I'm leaning towards this gig. I don't recall seeing Devastation)

Top Hat:
Slayer & Nuclear Assault
Metallica & Danzig
Onslaught, Crumbsuckers & Slammer
WASP & Zed Yago
Anthrax & Predator
Faith No More & Prong
Suicidal Tendencies & MOD
Kreator & (fake) Death

SFX:
Judas Priest & Annihilator
Pantera & Gruntruck
Placebo & ?
Anthrax & ? (Stomp 442 tour)
Slayer & Fu Manchu

Tivoli:
Rage Against The Machine & Whipping Boy (though the ticket says Tool, who supported them on that tour but we got jipped)
Beastie Boys & Scary Eire
Cathedral & Hangnail

I'm sure there are more but I'm an old cunt and have lost some stubs along the way which might have helped me remember  :laugh:

There were some good gigs in the Point around that time too

Iron Maiden NPFTD tour & Wolfsbane
AC/DC & King's X
Megadeth RIP tour, The Almighty and Alice In Chains
Metallica (Black album tour)
Megadeth CTE tour & Pantera
The Cult & Bootsauce
Iron Maiden FOTD tour & ...?
Faith No More & L7
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 10:58:48 PM
I know Ozzy, Yngwie and Queensryche played the Top Hat around that time and I missed those gigs.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 11:02:13 PM
Quote from: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 10:57:10 PM
I get misty eyed at the thoughts of those days  :laugh:

My first gig was Megadeth and Sanctuary in the Olympic Ballroom but, after that, it was Top Hat and McGonagles all the way. I saw very few gigs in the SFX ,thankfully, it was a kip. If I can recall correctly and hopefully in some sort of order...

McGonagles:
Predator & Tomorrow's World
Acid Reign & Killerwatt (?)
Sabbat & Xentrix
Slammer & ...?
Gang Green & Meliah Rage
DRI & ...?
Deicide (Cancer were supposed to support but no show)
Acid Reign (again) &...?
Xentrix & Moral Crusade (?)
Sacred Reich & Atrophy
Ozzy - both gigs
Xentrix (again) & Treason (?)
The Almighty & Predator (?)
Death & Loudblast
Massacre, Morgoth & Immolation (The ticket says Devastation but I saw Immolation in McGonagles and I'm leaning towards this gig. I don't recall seeing Devastation)

Top Hat:
Slayer & Nuclear Assault
Metallica & Danzig
Onslaught, Crumbsuckers & Slammer
WASP & Zed Yago
Anthrax & Predator
Faith No More & Prong
Suicidal Tendencies & MOD
Kreator & (fake) Death

SFX:
Judas Priest & Annihilator
Pantera & Gruntruck
Placebo & ?
Anthrax & ? (Stomp 442 tour)
Slayer & Fu Manchu

Tivoli:
Rage Against The Machine & Whipping Boy (though the ticket says Tool, who supported them on that tour but we got jipped)
Beastie Boys & Scary Eire
Cathedral & Hangnail

I'm sure there are more but I'm an old cunt and have lost some stubs along the way which might have helped me remember  :laugh:

There were some good gigs in the Point around that time too

Iron Maiden NPFTD tour & Wolfsbane
AC/DC & King's X
Megadeth RIP tour, The Almighty and Alice In Chains
Metallica (Black album tour)
Megadeth CTE tour & Pantera
The Cult & Bootsauce
Iron Maiden FOTD tour & ...?
Jaysus H Christos lad. It's as if we were joined at the hip  :laugh:
I'm glad you mentioned who supported Pantera at The SFX, Gruntruck. I frigging love them but could never remember them from that night.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 11:03:01 PM
 :laugh: Yeah, I liked Gruntruck too. Decent band.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 11:04:54 PM
@Juggz

The Massacre line up is correct. I bought t-shirts by the 3 bands that night.
It shows the lineup on that FB Classic Dublin Gigs link I posted earlier.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 11:06:04 PM
Quote from: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 11:03:01 PM
:laugh: Yeah, I liked Gruntruck too. Decent band.
Push gets regular spins. Amazing and underrated album.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 11:06:24 PM
Ah me and FB don't get along so I hadn't clicked the link  :-\
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 11:12:31 PM
I saw Carcass in The Tivoli in the early 90's but didn't know it until I happened to mention to my ex's sister that "I finally got to see Carcass" after their gig in The Academy in 2014.
She said; "What you on about? We saw them in 1994 in The Tivoli you mong!"  :laugh: :laugh:
I do vaguely remember having to be lifted off the steps onto the floor by a very nice security gentleman at one stage that night. I never knew what gig it was till she mentioned it.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: astfgyl on June 04, 2020, 11:13:57 PM
Faith No More and Prong must have been a fairly special occasion
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: mugz on June 04, 2020, 11:17:07 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on June 04, 2020, 11:13:57 PM
Faith No More and Prong must have been a fairly special occasion

it was religious
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 11:20:08 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on June 04, 2020, 11:13:57 PM
Faith No More and Prong must have been a fairly special occasion
I shagged my (then) missus during FNM. It was the Point Depot gig though. The one that announced how to 'anal sex' properly over the PA before the gig started. Tied my leather jacket round my waist. Dropped my keks and went at her from behind.
Jaysus, those were the days...  :laugh:
Shagged her on the hill at Guns n Roses at Slane in 1992 as well. Got plenty of encouragement from the other punters too...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 11:20:58 PM
Right, I'm going to sleep now.....
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Trev on June 04, 2020, 11:21:24 PM
Quote from: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 10:57:10 PM
I get misty eyed at the thoughts of those days  :laugh:

My first gig was Megadeth and Sanctuary in the Olympic Ballroom but, after that, it was Top Hat and McGonagles all the way. I saw very few gigs in the SFX ,thankfully, it was a kip. If I can recall correctly and hopefully in some sort of order...

McGonagles:
Predator & Tomorrow's World
Acid Reign & Killerwatt (?)
Sabbat & Xentrix
Slammer & ...?
Gang Green & Meliah Rage
DRI & ...?
Deicide (Cancer were supposed to support but no show)
Acid Reign (again) & Amnesia
Xentrix & Moral Crusade (?)
Sacred Reich & Atrophy
Ozzy - both gigs
Xentrix (again) & Treason (?)
The Almighty & Predator (?)
Death & Loudblast
Massacre, Morgoth & Immolation (The ticket says Devastation but I saw Immolation in McGonagles and I'm leaning towards this gig. I don't recall seeing Devastation)

Top Hat:
Slayer & Nuclear Assault
Metallica & Danzig
Onslaught, Crumbsuckers & Slammer
WASP & Zed Yago
Anthrax & Predator
Faith No More & Prong
Suicidal Tendencies & MOD
Kreator & (fake) Death

SFX:
Judas Priest & Annihilator
Pantera & Gruntruck
Placebo & ?
Anthrax & ? (Stomp 442 tour)
Slayer & Fu Manchu

Tivoli:
Rage Against The Machine & Whipping Boy (though the ticket says Tool, who supported them on that tour but we got jipped)
Beastie Boys & Scary Eire
Cathedral & Hangnail


They'd all closed by the time I started regularly going to gigs in the early 00s, so many gigs from that list I wish I could've been at
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: mugz on June 04, 2020, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 11:20:08 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on June 04, 2020, 11:13:57 PM
Faith No More and Prong must have been a fairly special occasion
I shagged my (then) missus during FNM. It was the Point Depot gig though. The one that announced how to 'anal sex' properly over the PA before the gig started. Tied my leather jacket round my waist. Dropped my keks and went at her from behind.
Jaysus, those were the days...  :laugh:
Shagged her on the hill at Guns n Roses at Slane in 1992 as well. Got plenty of encouragement from the other punters too...  :laugh:

mixture of disgust amusement shock and jealousy no emoticon suffices
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 11:28:37 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 11:20:08 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on June 04, 2020, 11:13:57 PM
Faith No More and Prong must have been a fairly special occasion
I shagged my (then) missus during FNM. It was the Point Depot gig though. The one that announced how to 'anal sex' properly over the PA before the gig started. Tied my leather jacket round my waist. Dropped my keks and went at her from behind.
Jaysus, those were the days...  :laugh:
Shagged her on the hill at Guns n Roses at Slane in 1992 as well. Got plenty of encouragement from the other punters too...  :laugh:
:laugh: It wasn't you two going at it upstairs in the Top Hat while Slayer were playing, no?

Just remembered another one. Obituary, touring COD with James Murphy, in McGonagles... only there was gear set up in stage, a load of us in the venue... but no band. For whatever reason they didn't make it.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 11:33:28 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on June 04, 2020, 11:13:57 PM
Faith No More and Prong must have been a fairly special occasion
That one started late because FNM were recording their appearance on Top of the Pops in the afternoon, which was broadcast the following day when they were in Belfast... and we were at DRI in McGonagles.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=COWpnlvc7dU
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 05, 2020, 12:34:45 AM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on June 04, 2020, 11:20:08 PM
Shagged her on the hill at Guns n Roses at Slane in 1992 as well. Got plenty of encouragement from the other punters too...  :laugh:

She had nothing better to do, and you were bored...?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Carnage on June 05, 2020, 12:42:18 AM
Was it during Rocket Queen?
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Paul keohane on June 05, 2020, 12:42:48 AM
Top hat and Mcgonagles   were before my time,looked like some epic gigs in those placese!,made it to the SFX a couple of times.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 05, 2020, 09:01:47 AM
Quote from: Carnage on June 05, 2020, 12:42:18 AM
Was it during Rocket Queen?
Fucking had to be.....  :laugh:
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Mower Liberation Front on June 05, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
Quote from: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 11:28:37 PM


Just remembered another one. Obituary, touring COD with James Murphy, in McGonagles... only there was gear set up in stage, a load of us in the venue... but no band. For whatever reason they didn't make it.

Yeah they did make it. I remember walking down that long straight stretch of road outside Carrickmacross at 2 in the morning trying to get a lift home after that show. It was The End Complete tour where they didn't appear.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on June 05, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on June 05, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
Quote from: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 11:28:37 PM


Just remembered another one. Obituary, touring COD with James Murphy, in McGonagles... only there was gear set up in stage, a load of us in the venue... but no band. For whatever reason they didn't make it.

Yeah they did make it. I remember walking down that long straight stretch of road outside Carrickmacross at 2 in the morning trying to get a lift home after that show. It was The End Complete tour where they didn't appear.
:laugh: Were you heading to Castleblayney? Cunt of a stretch, hahaha....
Did it myself one night with the singer of some band I can't remember. He was an annoying cunt and I can see why his band mates ditched him...  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Scáthach on June 05, 2020, 04:35:10 PM
Type O Negative with Stuck Mojo in the SFX was fun. Probably in 96/97, (stub is upstairs, can't be arsed checking). Stuck Mojo weren't my thing but the singer came out and did Kill all the White People with Type O which was cracking. Fun times.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: mugz on June 05, 2020, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: Scáthach on June 05, 2020, 04:35:10 PM
Type O Negative with Stuck Mojo in the SFX was fun. Probably in 96/97, (stub is upstairs, can't be arsed checking). Stuck Mojo weren't my thing but the singer came out and did Kill all the White People with Type O which was cracking. Fun times.

being young was great, apart from, as is typical, not appreciating it at the time.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Shane on June 05, 2020, 04:39:02 PM
 :abbath:
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Mower Liberation Front on June 05, 2020, 04:57:12 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on June 05, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on June 05, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
Quote from: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 11:28:37 PM


Just remembered another one. Obituary, touring COD with James Murphy, in McGonagles... only there was gear set up in stage, a load of us in the venue... but no band. For whatever reason they didn't make it.

Yeah they did make it. I remember walking down that long straight stretch of road outside Carrickmacross at 2 in the morning trying to get a lift home after that show. It was The End Complete tour where they didn't appear.
:laugh: Were you heading to Castleblayney? Cunt of a stretch, hahaha....
Did it myself one night with the singer of some band I can't remember. He was an annoying cunt and I can see why his band mates ditched him...  :laugh: :laugh:

To Blayney and beyond. Nice road to drive, horrible to walk. "Oh, there's a car coming." Few minutes later, "It's still coming, I wonder how far away it is now?"
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Juggz on June 05, 2020, 05:04:00 PM
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on June 05, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
Quote from: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 11:28:37 PM


Just remembered another one. Obituary, touring COD with James Murphy, in McGonagles... only there was gear set up in stage, a load of us in the venue... but no band. For whatever reason they didn't make it.

Yeah they did make it. I remember walking down that long straight stretch of road outside Carrickmacross at 2 in the morning trying to get a lift home after that show. It was The End Complete tour where they didn't appear.
Nah, I thought The End Complete was shite (still do) and wouldn't have bothered my hole to see them on that tour.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: mugz on June 05, 2020, 05:08:22 PM
Quote from: Juggz on June 05, 2020, 05:04:00 PM
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on June 05, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
Quote from: Juggz on June 04, 2020, 11:28:37 PM


Just remembered another one. Obituary, touring COD with James Murphy, in McGonagles... only there was gear set up in stage, a load of us in the venue... but no band. For whatever reason they didn't make it.

Yeah they did make it. I remember walking down that long straight stretch of road outside Carrickmacross at 2 in the morning trying to get a lift home after that show. It was The End Complete tour where they didn't appear.
Nah, I thought The End Complete was shite (still do) and wouldn't have bothered my hole to see them on that tour.

It's their best album, to me at least.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Carnage on June 05, 2020, 07:32:08 PM
It isn't (that's Cause Of Death) but it's the last properly good one until the recent self-titled album.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: astfgyl on June 05, 2020, 11:23:35 PM
I had The End Complete on CD for years, and this might be slightly controversial but I never enjoyed it even once

Edit: Honestly thought I was in the other thread
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: mugz on June 05, 2020, 11:55:10 PM
Quote from: Carnage on June 05, 2020, 07:32:08 PM
It isn't (that's Cause Of Death) but it's the last properly good one until the recent self-titled album.

cause of death is number 4 for me. I like TEC, World Demise, and Back From The Dead almost equally, then the first 2. Back From The Dead is great , even though noone likes it.
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: Don Gately on June 06, 2020, 08:26:01 PM
I saw Morbid Angel in McGonagles with Unleashed I think, Pantera, Sepultura at SFX IN 92 ish. Great gigs
Title: Re: Top Hat/McGonagle's/The SFX/The Tivoli
Post by: mugz on June 06, 2020, 09:42:36 PM
just blasting the end complete now, sounds killer to my ears, would have been great to hear that whip crack snare drum live back in the day!