Magical Mushrooms

[mickO)))]

Thanks lads. Unfortunately I don't have any of that type of paper in the house right now. Would these be ok just left in a plastic shopping bag until tomorrow? We only got a handful so it was more just being happy to find some and we will go back out again.

I have taken the normal mushrooms and microdosed with the standard dried ones many times over the years. Are these fresh ones exactly the same thing once they are dried out or are they different when it comes to how many you would need to take / how strong they are etc. or is 5grams the same no matter which of the two you have?

astfgyl cheers I will send you a PM now neither myself nor the lad I went with have ever picked them before so we weren't too sure what we were looking for and the one place we did find some ended up having a bull and a cow with massive horns in the field so we couldn't look around as much as we would have wanted to.

[astfgyl]

I wouldn't leave them in a plastic bag because they'll turn to mush. Just spread them out on a bit of a cereal box or anything at all and they'll still keep in the short term

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Yeah you definitely don't want to leave them in a plastic bag, best to let them dry as soon as possible. And bear in mind you'll probably see some small organisms crawling out of them, so don't be drying them on your carpet or anything where they could find a new home!

I have taken the normal mushrooms and microdosed with the standard dried ones many times over the years. Are these fresh ones exactly the same thing once they are dried out or are they different when it comes to how many you would need to take / how strong they are etc. or is 5grams the same no matter which of the two you have?

I'm not sure what you mean by 'normal', but they're generally stronger when they're fresh. They can lose a little bit of potency when dried, and depending on how they are stored. Light and air is not great for preservation. You want them to be cracker dry for proper storage.

Mushrooms are about 90-95% water, so the weight difference is HUGE. 1 gram fresh is about .1 gram dry, 10 grams fresh is about 1 gram dry etc. Just divide by 10.
Most dosage charts you'll find online will refer to the dry weight, so there's no point in weighing them fresh unless you are weighing them as soon as you pick them. If you weighed them when they're only half dry, you wouldn't get an accurate reading.

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This is a great video if you're new to mushroom hunting. There's even a wee quiz at the end, so you can practice identification before you head out:

And here's another quick wee tip:

Also, if you're on facebook there's a group called Magic Mushroom Society of Ireland, or something like that. People post images of mushrooms they've picked that they're unsure about. Once they've received an id, the posts are deleted I think.

Or there's a forum on Shroomery.org, fuck tons of info on there.

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Got 50 to 60 today.

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Went night hunting last night, got about 180 or so and another 35 this morning 

[mickO)))]

I wouldn't leave them in a plastic bag because they'll turn to mush. Just spread them out on a bit of a cereal box or anything at all and they'll still keep in the short term

Cheers for the PM. The ones I got are gone to shit now but we are going to go out during the week so ill be ready then.

Yeah you definitely don't want to leave them in a plastic bag, best to let them dry as soon as possible. And bear in mind you'll probably see some small organisms crawling out of them, so don't be drying them on your carpet or anything where they could find a new home!

I have taken the normal mushrooms and microdosed with the standard dried ones many times over the years. Are these fresh ones exactly the same thing once they are dried out or are they different when it comes to how many you would need to take / how strong they are etc. or is 5grams the same no matter which of the two you have?

I'm not sure what you mean by 'normal', but they're generally stronger when they're fresh. They can lose a little bit of potency when dried, and depending on how they are stored. Light and air is not great for preservation. You want them to be cracker dry for proper storage.

Mushrooms are about 90-95% water, so the weight difference is HUGE. 1 gram fresh is about .1 gram dry, 10 grams fresh is about 1 gram dry etc. Just divide by 10.
Most dosage charts you'll find online will refer to the dry weight, so there's no point in weighing them fresh unless you are weighing them as soon as you pick them. If you weighed them when they're only half dry, you wouldn't get an accurate reading.

Yeah I put them back in the bag as I had thought alright something might come out of them going to head out now next week for more. By normal I just mean't the ones you would buy in a shop in the likes of Amsterdam. Thanks yeah that makes sense so I guess I will just try to get as many as I can over the next few weeks. I will check out those links as well.

Thanks lads.

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Think you can only buy truffles in Amsterdam now, I'm not even sure what they are and what weight etc

But the mushrooms you could buy there years ago (and here also over the counter, up until 2006) could only be sold fresh and would probably have been about 35g fresh, so that's anout 3.5g dry.

BUT, they belong to the psilocybe cubensis family.
Liberty caps belong to the psilocybe semilanceata family, and are more potent (33% maybe) per gram than what were being sold in the shops.

I saw a chart online somewhere to compare dosage between the two. I think 2.5g liberty caps could be around the 3.5g cubensis that they were selling in shops.

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By the way, if you're interested, there's also a type that grow here known as 'wavy caps' which belong to the psilocybe cyanescens family. Apparently they can grow from the wood chips in Aldi car parks later on in the year. I've never seen nor tried them, but they are of a different strength again.

[mickO)))]

I can still get those Amsterdam style Mushrooms here the odd time they are the same as the ones you can grow at home yourself. I had those head shop Mushrooms before they were made illegal and they were weird. They were like little smarties and you had to eat shit loads of them. Only had them the once to be honest they felt more like weed edibles than Mushrooms. The 95% water thing you mentioned is probably why as I must not have eaten enough of them.

[astfgyl]

I've been on the lookout for the wavy caps for a few years but have never managed to find any. Would like to try them if anyone does find any send a pic.

Meanwhile in tipp...



Happy as a pig in shit

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Nice!

I went out for another lovely night pick under the moon and stars. Only got about 70 before I had to run back because the fingertips got frozen off me. Fuck me it got cold fast, but that's good news for our little gifts. A bit more rain and we're full steam ahead 

[ochoill]

Lol there he is now, off to open the Stargate

[astfgyl]

Nice!

I went out for another lovely night pick under the moon and stars. Only got about 70 before I had to run back because the fingertips got frozen off me. Fuck me it got cold fast, but that's good news for our little gifts. A bit more rain and we're full steam ahead 

I did notice yesterday that things were a bit dry and not a massive amount of new ones as well but we have the good cold nights now and a forecast for rain so looking forward to next weekend. What's the craic like picking at night?

[mickO)))]

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If you had some of that parchment lining that box would that be ok to them leave in piled up like that for drying? I was thinking of getting a big lunch box or something along those lines to keep them in and prevent the little insects getting out and into the house. Can they dry just as well like that all piled on top of each other or would you have to lay them out individually?