Are we all fucked?

[Caomhaoin]

The Chinese are stocking up on discounted Russian crude rather than 'Stand with Ukraine'.

[Ollkiller]

The Chinese are stocking up on discounted Russian crude rather than 'Stand with Ukraine'.

Would you expect anything else from them though. They don't give a fuck about most of their own population never mind anyone else's.

[astfgyl]

Story I was reading was that India are buying the Russian oil and selling it to Europe. The right way to punish Putin in my book and a great way to honour the name of Ben Stiller

[91/30]

The Chinese are stocking up on discounted Russian crude rather than 'Stand with Ukraine'.

Would you expect anything else from them though. They don't give a fuck about most of their own population never mind anyone else's.

[astfgyl]

https://www.thejournal.ie/waterford-beach-bleach-5847170-Aug2022/

Maybe

[astfgyl]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1562866166506614784

"A world without climate change"? Pull the other one. Is there anyone who truly believes the climate wouldn't change without human intervention? Seriously.

[Ollkiller]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1562866166506614784

"A world without climate change"? Pull the other one. Is there anyone who truly believes the climate wouldn't change without human intervention? Seriously.

Climate over millennia does change of course. Only this time were accelerating the change.

[astfgyl]

it doesn't take millennia for climate to change to the degree we're seeing. Look at the last hundred years how it has ebbed and flowed. it also can't be measured by an extreme event such as the one that the article refers to. They are called extreme for a reason, if they become far more common then they're not extreme anymore they are the norm. I think people should be thinking about weatherproofing rather than changing the weather because that's hubris in the extreme. Please don't conflate that with my opinion on making things cleaner and less polluting which I'm all for but I think we should all learn to be careful of modelling and treating it like prophesy.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The norm for the Sahara is extreme, doesn't make it any less extreme. I know what you mean about frequency, but extreme also relates to ability to survive in the face of.

A lot of the weatherproofing measures, if done properly, would also contribute to removing carbon from the atmosphere and even trap it before it got there. People talk a lot about "planting trees", but we know that if trees are just planted all together in massive monoculture forests somewhere, that's not an optimal use. Trees can be used to weatherproof cities, for example. Bordeaux, a place where extreme  temperatures above 40° are slowly but surely becoming the norm in summer, would benefit massively from planting rake loads of trees around the city. And regarding flooding, they can also be used to hold soil in place around cities and towns at risk, which can do a lot to help curb mudslides, etc.

Personally, I think folk would better serve themselves and the planet if they directed their skepticism away from the models and towards the solutions being proposed.

[Ollkiller]

Big time on the planting of trees in cities. A natural way to cool cities.

[Eoin McLove]

I'm all for planting more trees, be it around cities and other urban centres or planting new forests for the future. I'm completely biased as I find forests to be my preferred natural environment. I think new housing estates should be designed to be 50% housing and 50% trees- or more accurately all of the otherwise green space should be planted up with trees so maybe 70/30.. It would just be an epic kind of place to live in and would benefit people in terms of mental health (not counting all the inevitable rapes and murders that would undoubtedly occur under their cover, but sure), it would be good for the air between cooling and carbon capture and it would also benefit biodiversity.

[The Butcher]

I could never understand the Green party position of tackling climate change through some pretty tough measures, some of which would certainly decrease the quality of life we have been used but in the same vein, be very pro population growth. Same goes for talking about electricity shortages while approving data centres around the country. No one likes to say it without being labelled as a right winger but in reality it's absolutely impossible for infrastructure to keep up with inward migration numbers like this ->
https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-population-2022-5848121-Aug2022/

If you think the current generation are screwed the next crop will be taking a steep downward dive.

https://cityedge.ie/
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/dublin-news/ambitious-50-year-plan-to-transform-west-dublin-and-create-40000-new-homes-is-unveiled-41916956.html

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Ireland is way behind most other countries with regards to developments like that. On the surface at least, that looks to be the equivalent of Milton Keynes. Maybe there'll be some cool concerts there!

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-population-2022-5848121-Aug2022/

Interesting to look at the details of those immigration figures too, since many people assume a certain thing when they hear the word "immigration" and for some reason that tends to send them into a panicked brain fog:

120,700 [immigrants] arriving into the country in the last 12 months.

...28,900 of those immigrants being returning Irish nationals.

...24,300 EU nationals, 4,500 UK nationals and the remaining 63,000 [including almost 28,000 Ukrainians] from countries outside the EU.

[Caomhaoin]

Romania is in the EU. As is Slovakia. Both have large Roma populations who are, for the most part, despised by the native population and therefore they look to emigrate (understandably). Their way of life is not easily digested in Western Europe. I was in Paris a few years ago and they are a fucking plague if you are a tourist. If you don't stick the chest out and tell them to fuck off quite assertively, you're in for a dose.

A lot of 'Ukrainian' refugees are anything but.

If you have 1000+ families living in hotel rooms, living on pot noodles and kids having to sit on the bed to do their homework (anyone with a child or children could imagine the psychological effect of this on the entire family), surely the government's priority should be to address this and similar issues.

Genuine refugees etc have my sympathy, but flying them over here in enormous numbers is counterproductive on several levels. We can't house our own population, students can't get a gaff and clogging up hotels at eye watering expense in small town Ireland is a recipe for disaster.

As much as a lot of Sinn Féin's embracing of and pandering to the post modernists turns my stomach, I'd still consider voting for them as they are promising to do something about the atrocious housing situation.

Brain fog or not, it's certainly not as benign as you are implying.