Get the feeling like Alex is a bit of a Steve Harris "I'm the only resposnsible one around here" and Paul is headstrong so it seems like they run the show alright. There's a story where they wrote Hammer Smashed Face while the band was actually split up for a little bit in 1991 after the Butchered run...think those guys are one camp.

I see some weird rumors on Barret going around now, I'd say being in a touring metal band for 40 years is no joke

Yeah think Barret will be out the door.

Are the two boys Alex and Paul the leaders so to speak? They didnt hesitate letting Pat O'Brian go after his breakdown. I mean they could of stuck behind him and allowed him some time to get himself back on track. He was an integral part of the band for so long.

Quote from: Pagan Saviour on January 22, 2026, 09:16:14 AMAnyone see that interview with Jack Owen, said he quit because of a toxic environment and had to get away from one individual in particular?
where's that interview? Might explain why he seemed miserable playing live with them.

He's been miserable playing live for 20+ years looking at him.

He can't be blamed for having a head like a melted welly.

That's never stopped the rest of us from looking like we're having a good time.

I met Jack and Paul walking down the street in Dublin before their gig in 2000, one of those fan boy moments! :laugh:

Yep, met them all outside the Mean Fiddler 1998. Just after Gallery came out, all seemed relaxed there.

Aye I met Jack after Deicide played The Village in 2004. I also caught a tomato that Benton randomly threw in the crowd, that my mam threw away a few days later, which I was pissed off about. What I was going to do with it, I have no idea.

Quote from: Necro Red on January 22, 2026, 11:10:57 AMAre the two boys Alex and Paul the leaders so to speak? They didnt hesitate letting Pat O'Brian go after his breakdown. I mean they could of stuck behind him and allowed him some time to get himself back on track. He was an integral part of the band for so long.

I think the deal with O'Brien was he was a little too much into the partying and had a couple of warnings from Alex & Paul on the tours preceding his meltdown.

TBF they are probably successful because those two lads have the drive to push it. Im sure if Barnes was at the helm they'd be headlining at the Day of Darkness rather than Hellfest or whatnot

Did Jack not join some rock band with a girl singer just prior to his CC departure? I want to say they were called Adrift or something but I might be thinking of Alas, Rutan's yoke. I vaguely remember him saying something about not wanting to play metal anymore around the time.


Quote from: Anton Arcane on January 22, 2026, 06:38:04 PMDid Jack not join some rock band with a girl singer just prior to his CC departure? I want to say they were called Adrift or something but I might be thinking of Alas, Rutan's yoke. I vaguely remember him saying something about not wanting to play metal anymore around the time.

That's the one. Think there was live footage on the CC doc.

And yes he was doing his Father Stone impression on stage with them too.