Quote from: astfgyl on June 07, 2020, 10:13:11 AM
I did a rewatch of the LOTR trilogy about 2 years ago with the older kids and I have to say I came to the same conclusion about the 3rd one. It's still good but it really drags towards the end.

Did The Hobbit movies around the same time and wasn't delighted with those at all going back to them

I really love the first LOTR film. I think it really captured the spirit of the books. After that Jackson caught the Hollywood bug and while they are still very enjoyable, they never recaptured the magic of the first film.

As for the Hobbit...yep the first wasn´t bad, but as the man said, the messing around with the Elves etc..a Dwarf and an Elf falling for eachother. How the fuck was that ever going to happen..just weird. Jabbing her with his little midget willy.

Yeah you are bang on there about the first movie, it really did do justice to the books but as the series went on it was less and less so. Too many tweaks to the plot in the Hobbit series as well. It would have been much better without the love story and I have no idea how that got in there.

I imagine the day will never come when somebody tries to make a movie of The Silmarillion. Hopefully not anyway.

Well the new LoTR series that's coming to Amazon Prime deals with the Second Age, I believe. So, that should include some of the later Silmarillion stuff. It's defo more suited to a series instead of a movie(s). It has an obscene budget so it should look the part at least. The Silmarillion is my favourite book so I'm in two minds whether I want someone to attempt to adapt it for the screen.

The Silmarillion was the first Tolkien I tried to read and I really struggled to keep up with the sheer number of characters. It was like taking into the bible or something. Maybe in light of loving the other 2 main books, I would enjoy it more now. I wasn't the only one to struggle with it either, as I found the copy I have being used to hold up the leg of a table in a house I was renting!

I know a few people who have given up alright. It took ages the first time I read it. I needed a bookmark or 2 at the back cos I was constantly referring back. But just to become familiar with the lineage of elves in LoTR it's worth it. And the re-reads are all the more enjoyable for it.

They could have made that love angle kind of funny with a few winks and comments from yer man and leave it at that. It was nearly Romeo and Juliet by the end, totally daft.

Shoehorning Lily Whatshername and Legolas into it was shameful as it was. Her character didn't exist in Tolkien and I have no idea why the need was felt for Bloom to appear at all. And the fucking songs, jesus.

Yeah Jackson really bowed to Hollywood convention with some of the choices made around The Hobbit.

Watching the neverending story.. jesus I can still remember going to see this in the cinema. Still a fun movie to watch on a Sunday  ::)

'Til you get to Artax in the swamp. Heart of stone if you don't well up there.

Quote from: Carnage on June 07, 2020, 11:37:55 PM
'Til you get to Artax in the swamp. Heart of stone if you don't well up there.

Promised myself I wasn't goin to cry...


..promise broken  :'(

There are a couple of specific comic book movies I've been thinking of watching for a while, Wonder Woman is one, Black Panther another. So I threw on the latter last night, remembering at the time it got pretty good reviews. Jaysus it was god-awful. I mean, not quite as awful as Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (which I was brought to see in the cinema by someone who thought it would be a good remedy for decompressing after a week of work all-nighters), but still embarrassingly bad, nothing any of the fairly decent cast could do anything to salvage.

Is it representative of the newer Marvel movies??

Yep it's definitely representative..awful muck

If you didn't like black panther then you must be a racist bro!

But BP was certainly one of the weaker ones in the franchise. I think it in part got more hype because all the shite that went along with it.


Totally unjustified, as was the hype for Wonder Woman around the same time. I'd put it somewhere in the middle in terms of the Marvel movies.