Pantera Pulled From German Festivals

[Pagan Saviour]

https://blabbermouth.net/news/panteras-appearances-at-german-rock-festivals-canceled-following-outcry-over-accusations-of-racism


I think everything should just be cancelled from now on.

[Eoin McLove]

If these big festivals just ignored the hysterics it would all die down and the Witch hunt would move on to some other bunch of gormless victims. Imagine spending all of your time petitioning to get bands thrown off festivals that you wouldn't attend if your life depended on it. Time well spent.

[Pagan Saviour]

The gas thing is none of these cancellations are going to solve the actual issues. It was the same with the Tommy Tiernan thing the other week, not a fan of his at all and the offending joke was crap but it did seem like the individual in question went to the show with the intention of coming out with something they could get stuck into him for.

[mickO)))]

Imagine spending all of your time petitioning to get bands thrown off festivals that you wouldn't attend if your life depended on it. Time well spent.

Bands could of been involved in the cancellation as well sure didn't Bolt Thrower and Napalm Death refuse to play a festival they were scheduled for a few years ago because Satanic Warmaster was part of the lineup and SW then eventually got the boot because of it. Mustaine also refused to play at a festival with Dissection because they offended his religious beliefs.

I have tickets for the Berlin indoor show so I really hope that doesn't get cancelled.

[Eoin McLove]

That's it exactly. There is zero sincerity behind any of this guff. It's about looking great and BEING THUPER PROGRESSIVE GUYS on social media. Pathetic fucking crap from babies who need to get jobs, pay a few bills and talk to a grown up.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The gas thing is none of these cancellations are going to solve the actual issues. It was the same with the Tommy Tiernan thing the other week, not a fan of his at all and the offending joke was crap but it did seem like the individual in question went to the show with the intention of coming out with something they could get stuck into him for.

You've invented that last bit there all by yourself. See how easy it is to get carried away and veer into worldview confirming fantasy?

The whole Phil thing is clearly ridiculous, then and now. If you want to make comparisons, Beyoncé playing in Dubai and whatever other fuckers playing festivals in Saudi is condoning currently ongoing oppression on a much grander scale. I'm sure if you followed the money on the rest of the Rock Am Ring line-up, wouldn't take more than a step or two to find some seriously dodgy shit. Like, say, the CEO of Spotify investing in the military industrial complex, etc.

[Eoin McLove]

It's all hypocritical bullshit.

[Bürggermeister]

Every time you think these protests have gone too far these fuckers always seem to find... a new level?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Every time I fill up the car with diesel, I am endorsing the Saudi regime. Please forgive me.

Good thing you decided not to jam with that band, cos I was gonna get all their shows cancelled!   

[Bürggermeister]

 

[Pagan Saviour]

You've invented that last bit there all by yourself

Not really. Emer O'Neill has a track record in respect to the topic, a quick glance at any of her social media channels will reveal similar activity. One could argue that she's genuine and this is a topic close to her heart but I'm more in line with Mclove's sentiment that it's insincere guff with a slice of eyeing up a career added into the mix. And there's a couple of things that lead me to believe that, aforementioned content for a start, but more so the fact that when the incident did blow up and the question was asked as to why she picked the Tiernan gig the claim was made that she never really heard of him (Aside from him being a household name, she works at RTE!!!!). The thirst to demean him in the aftermath was quite strong I felt, he's made the apology and pulled the joke but now you want a public statement.

"I am thankful to Tommy for reaching out to me but to date no public statement has been made by him to the people of Ireland or those effected from our ethnic minority community"

So no, I haven't invented anything - I've had a look at it and that's simply what I see. You might see something different.

Tommy pulling the gag or Pantera not playing the festival will do nothing to further the issue.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Story goes, she didn't pick the Tiernan gig, she was brought there by friends. And she'd heard of him but never heard his stand-up material. That's not to say her reaction isn't overblown, and more's to the point, absolutely garbled as regards what Tiernan actually said, including the all important context, on the night.

In that way, it's the same as Phil: the context of his supposed sieg heil and accompanying "white power" wasn't one of harboring and wanting to spread nazi ideology. It was him, at worst, being a drunken fucking mess.

[blessed1]

Story goes, she didn't pick the Tiernan gig, she was brought there by friends. And she'd heard of him but never heard his stand-up material. That's not to say her reaction isn't overblown, and more's to the point, absolutely garbled as regards what Tiernan actually said, including the all important context, on the night.

In that way, it's the same as Phil: the context of his supposed sieg heil and accompanying "white power" wasn't one of harboring and wanting to spread nazi ideology. It was him, at worst, being a drunken fucking mess.

Phil just wanted some white wine.

[Pagan Saviour]

Story goes, she didn't pick the Tiernan gig, she was brought there by friends. And she'd heard of him but never heard his stand-up material. That's not to say her reaction isn't overblown, and more's to the point, absolutely garbled as regards what Tiernan actually said, including the all important context, on the night

I did see that too, not sure what element of it to go for to be honest. Even If it is true it's the overblown reaction as you say really and in my mind the need to keep it going.

Comedy particularly is in a precarious position at the minute. And again, I can't reiterate enough how outdated Tiernan is, but even for a comedian who's evolved their act runs the risk of having something from the past dredged up for revaluation.

[Caomhaoin]

Crawling, cowardly saps pulling them. Sadly, it's becoming a rarity to see a bit of backbone when it comes to 'outcry' or 'fury' from internet spas.