Quote from: Ducky on June 06, 2019, 03:22:14 AM
we should be protesting the fuck out of him. If anything, there's not enough noise being made.

Most protesting (especially protests against rather than for some cause) does little more than placate protesters into thinking they're "doing their bit". You'd have a hard time convincing me that the energy going into the kind of protesting against Trump that's going on wouldn't be better spent in many other ways (in Britain, for example, there are plenty of things worth working towards in a hands-on sense for people who have enough time to shake placards on the street all day).

But I completely agree with your characterization of the man himself. As Robert Reich has said, he may well be the objectively worst President of all time:

https://youtu.be/uRk1moc-Dw8


#421 June 06, 2019, 12:17:35 PM Last Edit: June 06, 2019, 12:20:37 PM by The Butcher
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 25, 2019, 09:00:24 PM
My digestive system has been all over the gaff for the last two years, which I attribute to many years of intense alcohol abuse and slightly fewer years of even more intense stress. I've done lots of research into it, and besides cutting down on alcohol and caffeine, daily doses of psyllium husks and glutamine are working wonders towards a gradual but very noticeable healing of a chronic hoor of a problem.

Psyllium husk is great. Found milk thistle helps after a night out, I rarely have a hangover if I take one before and one after, found a good few studies on it helping -> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK11896/

I'm not mad into millions of supplements but the only others I'd take would be Vit D3 and omega 3 fish oils.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 06, 2019, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Ducky on June 06, 2019, 03:22:14 AM
we should be protesting the fuck out of him. If anything, there's not enough noise being made.

Most protesting (especially protests against rather than for some cause) does little more than placate protesters into thinking they're "doing their bit". You'd have a hard time convincing me that the energy going into the kind of protesting against Trump that's going on wouldn't be better spent in many other ways (in Britain, for example, there are plenty of things worth working towards in a hands-on sense for people who have enough time to shake placards on the street all day).

But I completely agree with your characterization of the man himself. As Robert Reich has said, he may well be the objectively worst President of all time:

https://youtu.be/uRk1moc-Dw8

Completely one sided view of the guy. I'm not saying he's an angel, but plenty of the things he is being accused of are wildly overexaggerated. The mainstream media is obsessed with the guy. No mention of the 3 million illegals Obama had kicked out of the country or the fact that Obama was the one who brought in the cages for the immigrants..a quick google will reveal that

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5

The criticism would be fine if every other president had been treated the same, but they're not. He's right that the border is a insanely massive problem. His cure for that was never going to win the approval.of everyone, but one could take 'the wall' as a metaphor for what he wants to do. They need to get a grip on it. My missus is from Mexico and the whole fucking place is run by cartels. They mass execute groups of whoever the hell they want and the whole border area and issue brings insane problems with it. You get a bus from south to north and you are routinely stopped by cartel armies who decide if you can get throhgh. I nearly shit my pants around 4 in the mornibg on an overnight bus when they came on and asked me for my passport...some blondie lad out in the middle of bumfuck.nowhere and a lad with a machine gun and a balaclava. Fuck that for a game of chess.

Drug smuggling, murder, the women are gang raped by the coyotes who bring them across the border as payment, people dropping dead along the way, kids sent with no parents all the way up from central America, little 8 year olds on their own. It can't be allowed to go on, it's completely inhumane the fact that it is allowed to go on. There needs to be a proper system.and not just everyone rocking up and risking their life to jump.across fences only to have very little.waiting for them on the other side.

But of course the political opponents, who never had the guts to tackle the problem, hid behind their liberal bullshit rhetoric, and sat on their hands as countless thousands died. Someone has to make a tough decision and get things moving, be it announcing that the cartels are terrorists or getting the Mexican government onside.

Has his rhetoric been nice and happy and safe sounding..no. My missus was going mad for a while there and so were countless Mexicans, but I'd rather someone said something that hurt and in the long run got shit done than hide behind some intellectual, all inclusive, bullshit fakery while the problem festers and gets worse.

I worked in California for 6 months. I used get the bus in the morning. Nobody, who isn't poor gets the bus..it's like you have rabies when you get the bus. And at 6 in the morning the only people who are out are latinos/Mexicans cleaning the streets, picking fruit, they just work their absolute asses off, like a slightly better paid, slave underclass, doing all the dog work, in kitchens sweat pouring out of them, up.on scaffolding that you wouldn't send your worst enemy up while all the hippy happy Californians rode into the centre 3 hours later to earn tonnes of money for fuck all work. All under the counter money, they need to go to garages to change their cheque and the garage takes 10% each time. I know because I had no bank account and did the same. I'm sure the Obamas and the Clintons and Bushes all had their illegals cutting their hedges aswell. So, I don't buy the hypocrisy of it all. People need to go to these places and look at what's happening and dig around on the internet and make up their own minds instead of listening to yuppie middle class twats from San Francisco.or New York talking out their asses.

The recent Joe Rogan podcast with Ed Calderon is eye opening to say the least. A Mexican who worked on the border for 10 years...mental.stories and far more nuanced than to just criticise the wall. Indeed, he says build it, but it won't change a damn thing.

So I look at that one issue and say that it is far more nuanced and far more complex than simply Trump.is a racist or whatever headline they've come up with today.

I personally think he's totally right to call.out China for their economic thievery, we really needed someone to step in. Iran is another massive issue that I think needs adressing and, again, Obama made total shite of that. North Korea...at the very least there is some semblance of dialogue happening. Brexit..I don't see why a democratic vote to leave cannot be upheld..democracy, full stop. I think there are huge advantages for the UK to be outside, but of course the scaremongering and clickbait are driving people insane, like it did with the Scots independence election, like they do here in Spain when reporting on Catalunya, like they did with the Lisbon treay which I fell for hook line and sinker. I could go on and on..my point being that the hyperbole has gotten way out of hand and yet he's the first president in living memory who hasn't declared war on anyone, has grown his economy, wiped out ISIS, and all in the face of supreme hostility. If they actually left the guy alone for a moment to do his job, considering the results he's already had, I reckon he could achieve a lot.

#423 June 06, 2019, 06:19:05 PM Last Edit: June 06, 2019, 06:24:37 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
No reason to think an attack on Trump is a defence of Obama, no more than reasoned attacks on Bush were defences of Clinton. We can admit everything you say about Mexico and the border (adding the last century or more of US policy towards and inside the country wouldn't go amiss though), and still be critical of Trump's handling of it. Everything he's said about Mexico and the wall is the same as what he said about draining the swamp; seducing demographics (again, not to say all politicians don't do this).

He's a Republican, so the left leaning media were always going to be hard on him (as they were with Bush and Reagan), whereas they tend to be softer on Democrats (protecting their own camp, etc., all open to criticism in its own right), yet his capacity for bare-faced lying is simply incredible (again, media guilty too, but they're not to be held to the same standards). You might say that what makes Trump the worst president ever is that he's no good at hiding the implicit politics game of lying. From a cynical point of view, his style of lying makes a mockery, is almost like a parody, of the political status quo of misdirection, etc.  If politics is a game, then all Trumps red cards from the left media are for obvious diving and hand-ball tactics, and on that score he deserves it all, imo.

He's a Joker card and so is Brexit, but I think we needed it. I think it's great that he plays the media at their own malicious game..it's not the media or old, the media of morals and standards, most of what I see is character assassination and poorly written junk these days.

We're just coming out of a global crisis that nearly flattened us and this guy is growing jobs and pushing back on the likes of the Chinese who would whip the carpet out from underneath us if we allowed them. We had Troika threatening a bomb to go off on O Connell street if we didn't pay the bondholders, so Brexit, for me is a nice push back against the European juggernaut, which I am generally for, but it's no bad thing to have dissent. It has become something that it wasn't initially supposed to become and some instability, dissent and pushback is definitely necessary.

Nearly everyone I know who lives in Dublin works in an American multinational and yet people are protesting whqt exactly? I'm not sure they even know themselves. The Russia thing turned out to be a total fabrication. All that said, I'm not his greatest fan, but I've never seen ANY president get it in the neck like he has. The likes of Blair and Bush who decimated countries stroll around to their hearts content but Trump is the devil..makes fek all sense to me maybe because actions speak louder than words. Anyway, he's down in Doonbeg now, round of golf and a nice blowie from his savage wife. At the very least we can't fault his choice of women  :abbath:

Im not bothered by his visit,we do look like a bunch of gimps  when you see the footage of those locals down in Doonbeg falling over themselves when the sons arrived for pints!.

We'd do anything for the green..shameless

#427 June 06, 2019, 10:16:17 PM Last Edit: December 05, 2019, 10:58:36 PM by stevie-0
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Quote from: stevie-0 on June 06, 2019, 10:16:17 PM
Got to the point that I  didnt know was the IBS causing stress/anxiety or was Stress/anxiety causing IBS (the shits) ..almost became housebound because of this vicious cycle.

Yeah, went through exactly this too. Spirulina never did anything for me, but will look into the other two. Cheers...and bottoms up!

Quote from: 101_North on June 06, 2019, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: mickO))) on June 05, 2019, 06:48:16 PM
My peeve is bullshit office speak I know it was mentioned many times on the old forum. I can't stand phrases like "Touching base" "Learning curve".  My office recently moved to a new location and I have heard people using the phrases "growing pains" and "Teething problems" to describe getting use to things again  :-\

I've just been asked by a manager in here to "re-calibrate my bandwidth" as there's an urgent project  >:( :laugh: :laugh:

I overheard a manger yesterday who was going through the health and safety procedures with someone who just recently started at my company say "This stuff now is a bit tedious but don't worry we will get to the sexy stuff later"


Putting the word 'bespoke' in front of anything trying to make it sound extra fancy and upping the price accordingly.

Bespoke coffee, food, house.. Fucking anything

Quote from: Aborted on June 10, 2019, 07:46:20 PM
Putting the word 'bespoke' in front of anything trying to make it sound extra fancy and upping the price accordingly.

Bespoke coffee, food, house.. Fucking anything

See also - "artisan".

Little known fact - artisan is Latin for "adds 20 - 40% to the cost of something".

Quote from: StoutAndAle on June 11, 2019, 10:00:12 AMSee also - "artisan".

Little known fact - artisan is Latin for "adds 20 - 40% to the cost of something".

Ah lad I used to think the same until I started buying artisnal firewood:

https://youtu.be/TBb9O-aW4zI

I grew up around  Wood... my name is Jessie Horn..

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New sewage system going in all across town here in my sweet Bandonia. Traffic is in a state of complete chaos. I can deal with that. I can deal with the traffic jams. Use another route on the school run. What I can't deal with are the FUCKING RETARDS DRIVING DOWN THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD BECAUSE THEIR  PATIENCE HAS RUN OUT.
CUNTS.
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