Thats ballbaggery, pure and simple.

You have the gift of the gab, Stout :)

As an addendum to that story - he put up in a group WhatsApp last night;

"Lads - the tenants I had rented my place to left a load of scuff marks on the walls, I need to do a bit of painting. Anyone one free to give me a hand this Saturday? - I'll buy the pizza!"

Nobody has replied. Unsurprising, I suppose after me calling him all sorts of names and telling the lads about his carry on a few messages beforehand which he must have missed on Monday due to the absolute fucking state of him.

Tell him "yeah sure thing" and don't show, then on Saturday when he's raring to go and is looking for ya, tell him "you're dying".


Proper fucking peeve here tonight. Maybe more than a peeve...

I went over to the in- laws for dinner and to collect the kid whom the mother- in- law had collected from creche. All good so far.

When we are leaving and we jump in the car,  he starts complaining that my music is too loud, it's too noisy, I don't like it, it's bad, it's bad person music, turn it off, I like yaya (his granny)'s music!

The same shite out of him when I collected him last week. Maybe I am being unreasonable or petty here, but why the fuck is she filling his head with that shit? He is 3 years old and until last week he had never even noticed the music on in the car. Now it's turning into a yelling match every time I collect him from their house. Like, what the fuck matter is it if I'm listening to music I like in my own car that she has never ever been in!!!

It is interfering bullshit on her part, edging into passive aggressive territory most certainly and maybe (or I might be getting hyperbolic because I'm annoyed) slightly sociopathic.

If it was the other way around and I told him that his nursery rhymes were bad person music and sent him in to creche with his head full of that shit I don't think it would go down very well.

Irritating, unnecessary fucking shite  >:(

Yeah that's supreme dogshit.  I dunno if it would be out of place to say something to your wife about it, it's fairly interfering.  If the kid just turned on it themselves then fair enough but it doesn't sound like that.

My kid is still small enough that she doesn't care what's on in the car too, but if she's restless my wife will often turn off whatever I have on to put on The Wiggles for her, easily the most painful long drives in history

That's it exactly.

Ours is just gone three and for the moment I don't expose him to anything heavier than Judas Priest, but he's on a solid diet of classic rock with a high sing along value. If I had him listening to growls or even just thrash style barking he'd be trying to imitate that all the time which would surely flip out grandparents, crèche minders, etc. A happy medium is possible, no? Sure Maiden is basically nursery rhymes  :laugh:

I just listen to whatever I want to and do far (until last week, that is) he'll dance to it if he likes it or in most cases he ignores it completely and zones it out. Perfect. I can listen to what I like and he does his thing. Having my music listening, sacred time that is short in supply these days as you will no doubt agree, vicariously dictated to me from my mother in law via my 3 year old son? The words get fucked spring to mind.

It's none of her business, objectively, and she needs to be told that.

Put it this way, imagine telling your auld lad to 'turn that shit down' when you were a young lad in the back seat. You'd never even consider it. Your mother in law should, frankly, keep her beak out.

The Mrs doesn't allow metal in the car if she's driving. But if I am, tough shit. And the young lad? Ha ha, if you don't like it, fuckin' walk.

Good stuff. The Nazi oul lads are all aligned. No mercy!!!  8)

Not her place for sure. But I reckon more of the music is going in than you seem to be accounting for. It's strategic to make sure your kid's favourite music is stuff you can bear too, see.

#4078 August 04, 2022, 01:05:20 PM Last Edit: August 04, 2022, 01:12:02 PM by Eoin McLove
I don't like your music; it's bad person music (the semicolon was mine, not his. I feel a sudden need to clarify that). I like Yaya's music. I mean, that's not an idea a 3 year old formulates on his own, it's something he has been told and is parroting back.

I agree that some of it is going in. It has to, that's where nostalgia comes from in later life. But that's very much on a subconscious level. He has no taste in music. If he likes the sound of something he responds by dancing or nodding along. If he doesn't like it, it goes in one ear and out the other. I don't think he dislikes it because that would imply a level of engagement that isn't there. In 15 years he may well hate it but have a nostalgic fondness for it despite himself. Why not! But at 3... nein!

Well, I don't think my kid is advanced for his age, but he very much has his own taste in music (which will no doubt change to things I hate when he's older). "I don't want this, I want Queen," is an idea he expresses a lot. So if yours can't sing along to your music but can sing along to yaya's, then aside from her minding her own business, it's also natural for him to prefer what he can process.