Brexit

[Pedrito]

Corbyn is divisive but the crux of it all is Brexit. It's telling that Jo Swinson lost her seat as Lib Dem leader. The arrogance of her to push for a second referendum must have really riled people. The farce of the last 6 months, with the opposition doing everything they could to prolong a slow painful drawn out Brexit. The absolute shitehawkery of the likes of John Bercow. The SNP are flying high in Scotland, but let's not forget that the referendulm was lost. There won't be another one for a long, long time, and even then it is debatable if they would vote to leave the UK.

As for Ireland..well we need to use all our powers of diplomacy now to look for a solution with(like it or not) our  neighbour. Interesting times ahead and we need to play a shrewd hand to try and limit any potential damage. We need to be on the front foot offering solutions and not allow Europe or the UK to set the entire agenda. Politically speaking, very interesting times ahead.

[Juggz]

The Scottish referendum took place before any notions of Brexit were aired and, if you say the crux of it is Brexit, then the Scottish have just renounced it comprehensively. They will push for a second referendum and, based on the SNP being very clear about leaving the UK and remaining in the EU, there appears to be quite a reasonable chance the outcome would be quite different this time around.

[Trev]

The independence movement lost the first referendum but a huge push on that was the idea that they would remain part of the EU. If they could negotiate possible acceptance of their membership  I could see a second referendum easily pasaing

[Juggz]

Exactly. The UK they voted to stay a part of is not the UK of today, there’s an entirely different complexion.

[Pedrito]

Thr spin has started already. 'SNP should be focussing on the health system and schooling which they're letting down'. This is politics. Give it enough time and those numbers can start to look very different. They'd be mad to have a Scottish referendum now(the Cons) and they won't be having one for a long long time if ever. Expect to see something similar to Madrid/Catalunya take place now.

[Juggz]

Visas required for EU musicians to enter the UK to perform and, no doubt, the same will apply in reverse. This could affect the number of bands bothering their hole to go to the UK and then on to here and also bands from both sides of the border going to play the other side.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-touring-artists-will-need-visas-to-perform-in-the-uk-from-2021

[livingabortion]

A Green Card will be needed traveling from Northern Ireland to the Republic - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-53498374


But apparently not from Ireland to the UK - https://www.theaa.ie/blog/green-cards-need-to-know/

[Trev]

The whole Brexit thing seems to have been forgotten t about with all the other shite going on recently, but saw this thread earlier and found it interesting. I do wonder how it'll affect gigs on this side, I'm guessing most bands will throw in an Irish date because they're already doing a British tour

https://twitter.com/Howard_Goodall/status/1326554078256656389?s=09

[Bürggermeister]

As every day passes, it becomes clearer to even the most spasticated imperialist that Brexit was a fucking scam and their standard of living is immeasurably worse than it was 10 years ago. The predominantly right-wing media in the UK have savaged Starmer before his arse ever touched a chair in #10, regardless of his actual performance. The US has tried to fuck the UK in the ass several times in the last few years, and it becomes clearer every day they are now a small fish in a very big pond, so... I put it to you... any bets on when the UK rejoins the EU? It seems inevitable. Possibly some military alliance first but my money says they rejoin before the decade is out.

What say you?

[Thorn]

Starmer is chomping at the bit to get back in. But how to present it to the great unwashed?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

A majority of Brits want back in, according to most polls, no?

[Thorn]

Didn't know that, that decade bet looks good so, I'd say less.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

It's not massive like, though more than Leave won by in the first place.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/

[Thorn]

Hmmm, they're like a kid left in the schoolyard without a gang now though, I agree they need to get back in and eat that humble pie but I'm sure Starmer is wary of the Brits First Brigade.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Probably, the walking wet blanket. John Majors' Spitting Image puppet had more charisma than that nasal arsehole.