#120 January 20, 2021, 03:11:56 PM Last Edit: January 20, 2021, 03:15:07 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
The burden of proof isn't on this side though; what actual actions did he want to effect as President that he was prevented from doing by the democratic wing of the lizard establishment? He got executive orders through against lobbying (now revoked); he got a travel ban through; he supposedly made tremendous progress with his ludicrous wall project...or didn't he? So, what concrete things was he "not allowed" to do?

I'm not propping up anyone, but you are propping up Trump, and it's very mysterious. Obama's final two years were against a Republican Senate and House majority, with Mitch McConnell (by his own admission moreover) being to him what you claim Pelosi was to Trump. Cast your eyes back a bit: https://www.epi.org/blog/policy-watch-congress-blocks-14-obama-era-rules-in-an-unprecedented-blitz-of-cra-votes/

So, was Trump "not allowed" be President any more than any other President working against an opposing majority (for the short time that he was)? Or is this just a BS narrative concocted to gloss over the fact that he was just politically incompetent and more concerned about his personal image than anything else? He had the double (senate & house) majority on his side for a considerable amount of time.


#121 January 20, 2021, 05:41:16 PM Last Edit: January 20, 2021, 05:43:42 PM by Ollkiller
Quote from: Pedrito on January 20, 2021, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 20, 2021, 02:24:44 PM
Still don't see how you can reconcile talking about sticking it to "the powers that be" in the context of people who were literally following the articulated whims of the (then) President of the United States of America.

He was never allowed to be the president of America by the lizard establishment: Pelosi and the likes. I thought you believed in anarchism or something along those lines, not propping up these fatcat career politicians?

He was Preident and the republicans had control of the Senate. He just did absolutely fucking nothing with that control cause he was fucking useless. Christ like totally inept but as always, it's someone else fault.

Edit. May he he'll release his fabled new Medicare plan. Every week. It's just around the corner. Ya right.

You two would want to go and have a hold hands session somewhere. All this drama must be very hard on the old hearts.

Having never given them a go before, listened to the first album today and really enjoyed it.

And when put up against Lil Wayne's acclaimed album 'Carter III' I think Schaffer should feel hard done by not receiving a pardon.

Quote from: Nail_Bombed on January 20, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
He condemned himself for being a stupid prick and rioting with the rest of the Freedumb Fashbois.

Freedumb fashbois? What does that even mean? Did u get that from your antifa fanboy Facebook?
Have to chuckle at the schoolkids on here and their anti trump fists in the air.
Who will CNN,BBC,C4 Have as their pantomime villain now that trumps gone?

#125 January 20, 2021, 07:57:02 PM Last Edit: January 20, 2021, 08:09:44 PM by Ollkiller
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 20, 2021, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on January 20, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
He condemned himself for being a stupid prick and rioting with the rest of the Freedumb Fashbois.

Freedumb fashbois? What does that even mean? Did u get that from your antifa fanboy Facebook?
Have to chuckle at the schoolkids on here and their anti trump fists in the air.
Who will CNN,BBC,C4 Have as their pantomime villain now that trumps gone?

Sure you're one for trotting out the cliches yourself. And my opinion of Trump doesn't come from news channels. I judge the actions of the person. Which were totally inept.

Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 20, 2021, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on January 20, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
He condemned himself for being a stupid prick and rioting with the rest of the Freedumb Fashbois.

Freedumb fashbois? What does that even mean? Did u get that from your antifa fanboy Facebook?
Have to chuckle at the schoolkids on here and their anti trump fists in the air.
Who will CNN,BBC,C4 Have as their pantomime villain now that trumps gone?

Well, the BBC and C4 still have Boris Johnson, so...

Vocalist and bass player have handed in their notices.

QuoteFederal investigators believe Jon Schaffer sprayed U.S. Capitol Police with "bear spray" as he and other rioters forced their way into the Capitol building. Photographs from that day allegedly show Schaffer wearing a tactical vest with a baseball cap that read "Oath Keepers Lifetime Member." The Oath Keepers is a far-right militia that is known to target and recruit law enforcement and military personnel. According to court documents, Schaffer traveled to Washington, D.C., with other Oath Keepers shortly after the 2020 election to participate in the "Million MAGA March." In an interview that day, he was asked if he expected the protests to be violent. "If somebody wants to bring violence, I think there's a lot of us here that are ready for it," he said. "We don't want that, but if they bring it we're going to respond to that, trust me." Schaffer is the front man for the heavy metal band "Iced Earth," and according to court documents "has long held far-right extremist views." He has referred to himself as an "anarchist" and called the goverment a "criminal enterprise.".

Federal: Knowingly Entering or Remaining in any Restricted Building or Grounds Without Lawful Authority; Disrupting the Orderly Conduct of Government Business; Knowingly Engages in an Act of Physical Violence Against Any Person or Property in any Restricted Building or Grounds; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Engage in an Act of Physical Violence in a Capitol Building; Parade, Demonstrate, or Picket in a Capitol Building.

From the database at the bottom of this article: https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories?t=1614790433756

I'd imagine that some of the latter charges will see him put away for a while.




This is hilarious, a Facebook group called Jon Schaffer Loyalists:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/713805425994287/?ref=share

Quote from: Carnage on April 29, 2023, 02:57:51 PMThis is hilarious, a Facebook group called Jon Schaffer Loyalists:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/713805425994287/?ref=share

That is unintentional comedy gold. No doubt half of the dinguses posting on it have no clue what hijinks he got upto.

#134 October 25, 2024, 10:24:05 PM Last Edit: October 25, 2024, 10:52:34 PM by Trev
https://blabbermouth.net/news/jon-schaffer-on-his-involvement-in-u-s-capitol-riot-i-was-wrong-and-i-made-a-terrible-mistake

He's terribly sorry, and he's got a new church to help him. I fucking knew he'd come out of this claiming to have found Jesus