As a continuation of The Donald and Gemma earlier, amongst all the other shit that seems to be going wrong, even leaving aside Covid, the world is indeed in a state of chassis.


Yep we are all about to kick off in one direction or the other

Sure jaysis there's an awful oul stretch in the evenins

Paul McGrath, Ireland's first black alcoholic, is back on d'telly.

#5 October 27, 2020, 12:50:30 PM Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 01:22:33 PM by Caomhaoin
Polish protests against the tightening of abortion laws are getting fairly hairy. Lots of red and black spastic flags being waved about. Quelle surprise.

I despise abortion but I accept it for rape, incest or risk to the mother.

Have these cunts ever heard of pulling out? Or taking an auld tablet? Fuck sake.

Aren't the protests because of a ruling that abortions in cases of foetal defects have now been made illegal? In which case, fuck sake, that's got nothing to do with either pulling out or taking the pill. Strange too; all other signs indicate you'd be well on for a moderate eugenics program ;)

#7 October 27, 2020, 01:21:13 PM Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 01:23:01 PM by Caomhaoin
That's one factor, but as you well know, 99% of abortions are due to sexual irresponsibility, all other reasons are minuscule yet held aloft by screechers as THE reason for abortion. If you believe the protests are about foetal defects (in most cases it's not grounds for infanticide if you ask me), then you are attaching yourself to your ideology and not thinking.

I am not in any way religious. It's just abhorrent to me.

According to that poll in 2014, almost 70% of Poles are against abortion.

I don't get the last claim. Oh because I'm a Nazi! I forgot. Thanks for pulling me up on that.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 27, 2020, 01:21:13 PM
99% of abortions are due to sexual irresponsibility

Not in Poland. The protests are in Poland. Context...

Why would it be any different in Poland?

Do you have something solid to back that up?



#12 October 27, 2020, 05:04:31 PM Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 05:13:15 PM by Caomhaoin
But that is useless in this context as it contains no data for abortions undertaken abroad, which is where the vast majority of polish women terminate pregnancies.

Edit : I think I misunderstood you to a point.

But do you really think these protests are about foetal defects now being rejected as grounds for abortion? The signs being held up by protesters seem to suggest that it's the ban on abortion as a whole that's drawing their ire.

Quote from: Trev on October 27, 2020, 04:28:33 PM

Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 27, 2020, 01:21:13 PM
99% of abortions are due to sexual irresponsibility

Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 27, 2020, 04:24:01 PM
Do you have something solid to back that up?

OK, 99% is a figure I pulled out of my arse but the vast majority are because of sexual irresponsibility (for want of a better term)

This is a quite in-depth analysis

https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/psrh/2005/reasons-us-women-have-abortions-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives

Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 27, 2020, 05:04:31 PM
But that is useless in this context as it contains no data for abortions undertaken abroad, which is where the vast majority of polish women terminate pregnancies.

Edit : I think I misunderstood you to a point.

But do you really think these protests are about foetal defects now being rejected as grounds for abortion? The signs being held up by protesters seem to suggest that it's the ban on abortion as a whole that's drawing their ire.

I'd safely say they're protesting both the new law and the fact abortion isn't available.