https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bAEDnF6z-DU&t=6651s

This popped up on YouTube and I listened to it. Looks like contrarian Rich Walker has fallen down the conspiratorial well alongside Rob Miller of Amebix.

It's hosted by a Dan Capp who I never heard of but I had listened to his dark folk band Wolscensmen previously. He seems to be well into the conspiracies. I looked him up after and an interview with an Irish webzine popped up. It's a covid era interview and much of it has not aged well at all for Dan or the interviewer.
https://www.swallowedinblack.com/wolcensmen-interview/

The whole thing is reflective of the current state of society. There's very little nuanced middleground. You're either a blind sheep who sleepwalks into government vaccine plans, no questions asked, or you're a chemtrail head who believes some evil cabal is running the whole world from behind a dark curtain.

Gas to start to look back at the 2020 and 21 and people's views of covid and their predictions for the future. It seems like another life entirely!

Quote from: astfgyl on August 24, 2022, 02:25:45 PMYou're aware that article won't change a single person's mind about what they think they're looking at every day?
I don't really mind, either way, as there's little point arguing with anyone who chooses to believe the guff in the face of what it actually is. The link is there for anyone who starts to feel the pull of flat-earth gravitation. A helpline, if you will  :)

Funny how any suspicion is instantly lumped in with flat earth carry on. Is that the motte and bailey fallacy I was reading about? Aren't the BBC subscribers to the Trusted News Initiative anyway so they can only tell the truth?

Quote from: Grim Reality on August 24, 2022, 08:33:37 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bAEDnF6z-DU&t=6651s

This popped up on YouTube and I listened to it. Looks like contrarian Rich Walker has fallen down the conspiratorial well alongside Rob Miller of Amebix.

It's hosted by a Dan Capp who I never heard of but I had listened to his dark folk band Wolscensmen previously. He seems to be well into the conspiracies. I looked him up after and an interview with an Irish webzine popped up. It's a covid era interview and much of it has not aged well at all for Dan or the interviewer.
https://www.swallowedinblack.com/wolcensmen-interview/

The whole thing is reflective of the current state of society. There's very little nuanced middleground. You're either a blind sheep who sleepwalks into government vaccine plans, no questions asked, or you're a chemtrail head who believes some evil cabal is running the whole world from behind a dark curtain.

Gas to start to look back at the 2020 and 21 and people's views of covid and their predictions for the future. It seems like another life entirely!


I listened to about 10-15 mins. of that the other day, had to turn it off. 'Lol we're cancelled but at keast we're not sheep lol'. Awful shite.

Capp was in Winterfylleth for a while, I think.

While we're on the theme of metal related theorists, Stephen Carpenter is pretty spectacular. All those plane journeys too.

#335 August 25, 2022, 05:49:03 AM Last Edit: August 25, 2022, 06:08:13 AM by Bürggermeister
Quote from: astfgyl on August 24, 2022, 09:07:35 PMFunny how any suspicion is instantly lumped in with flat earth carry on. Is that the motte and bailey fallacy I was reading about? Aren't the BBC subscribers to the Trusted News Initiative anyway so they can only tell the truth?
But of course! They go together. Unlike much of the cloak and dagger carry-on, where not everything is known, in the case of the natural world the facts are observable to all. One must actively choose to disagree with what the eyes and brain see and can process with a basic grasp of science, in favour of a convoluted and irrational narrative, easily self-disprovable if one did not yearn to believe in the sinister so much. They simply go together. They are Jack and Jill, Hansel and Gretel, Ant and Dec, if you will.

Not the natural world though is it? As far as I see, contrails are an entirely man made phenomenon. Then again, as man is part of the natural world, can all the things man does be considered natural (with the obvious exception of Ant and Dec)?

Ok so the latest rumour is that all the illegals crossing the channel into the uk are actually a UN army trained by British special forces in Turkey and Ukraine and are being brought in for the globalist takeover. It's only a new one so give it time



Quote from: Grim Reality on August 24, 2022, 08:33:37 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bAEDnF6z-DU&t=6651s

This popped up on YouTube and I listened to it. Looks like contrarian Rich Walker has fallen down the conspiratorial well alongside Rob Miller of Amebix.

It's hosted by a Dan Capp who I never heard of but I had listened to his dark folk band Wolscensmen previously. He seems to be well into the conspiracies. I looked him up after and an interview with an Irish webzine popped up. It's a covid era interview and much of it has not aged well at all for Dan or the interviewer.
https://www.swallowedinblack.com/wolcensmen-interview/

The whole thing is reflective of the current state of society. There's very little nuanced middleground. You're either a blind sheep who sleepwalks into government vaccine plans, no questions asked, or you're a chemtrail head who believes some evil cabal is running the whole world from behind a dark curtain.

Gas to start to look back at the 2020 and 21 and people's views of covid and their predictions for the future. It seems like another life entirely!


In not into conspiracies but I'm interested in hearing this. Does Richard mention anything about his recent health issues?

I think it's somewhere in between the 2 extremes. Most things are driven by profit I think but a lot just run with it and can't be convinced to look at the possibility they might be wrong. Hate both terms sheep and tinfoil hat because they're too dismissive

Quote from: Bürggermeister on August 29, 2022, 09:36:50 PMDo you actually believe this shit?
Quote from: astfgyl on August 29, 2022, 11:04:42 PMNo
This made me laugh harder than it should.  Nutshell internet.

A much more localised conspiracy before was that meself and Astfgyl were the same person, egged on by us both admitting to being in the same band.  Fair should have kept that going

Yeah there's another one doing the rounds that burggermeister is actually another user too but I know juggz isn't into the tinfoil hat stuff so it's hardly real

One and the same, I thougght it was obvious enouggh  :laugh:  If you know the password to the old one I can go back to using that.