The Donald vs Big Tech

[Caomhaoin]

Do you think if Ducky was given the option of an evening with Fr Brendan Smyth or four more years of the greatest president in history (that's Trump Chris, not that fanny JFK), would he need to sleep on it?

After that link Nazgul sent, which was Sam Harris showing himself up as one of the most gigantic spas in history talking outrageous, totally stupidly shite (he's normally grand) about Trump, it wouldn't surprise me if he chose drinks and roofies with the big lad.

That's the worst thing about the lack of a decisive victory for Don. The rabid reaction from all the wankers employed as 'journalists' on CNN, the young Turks, Ducky, Ollkiller (I respect you more than before) and particularly Vladimir Chrisymich Ulioerav Vulgaris is lost to what-ifs.

Pity

[Nazgûl]

This is getting shared around by means of contrast and comparison of political decorum: McCain's concession speech from 2008.
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1034124130235236354

Trump on John McCain: "He's not a war hero, he got caught. I like people who don't get caught."

McCain spent 5 years imprisoned in Vietnam subjected to torture and long lasting disability.

And that's what the piece of shit in office now had to say about him.  Kept it up too after McCain's his death.

[Caomhaoin]

He was out of order with that, no doubt. Bush and his PR lads were even worse with Kerry, made an absolute show out of him.

Have you had a chance to listen to that podcast you posted again? I am biased to a point but the host shrieks like a harpy. And Harris? I couldn't believe my ears with some of the bullshit he came out with.

[Mower Liberation Front]

Do you think if Ducky was given the option of an evening with Fr Brendan Smyth or four more years of the greatest president in history (that's Trump Chris, not that fanny JFK), would he need to sleep on it?

Teddy Roosevelt would like to inform you you're wrong, but only after he beats you up and down the street a few times with a baseball bat, then stuffs you in a garbage can, and rolls it down San Juan Hill.

[Nazgûl]

He was out of order with that, no doubt. Bush and his PR lads were even worse with Kerry, made an absolute show out of him.

Have you had a chance to listen to that podcast you posted again? I am biased to a point but the host shrieks like a harpy. And Harris? I couldn't believe my ears with some of the bullshit he came out with.

I did. Completely take your point about the ranty nature of it letting down some of the stronger arguments they make. Still agree with the core majority of what they were saying though.

With Trump, it's the consistent lying, the shitty remarks, the seemingly zero lack of interest whatsoever in bringing people together and instead taking every opportunity to cause further divide.

Don't think he's a good president, don't think he sets any good examples for the rest of the world either.

I also don't spend much time thinking about it in my day and pretty much have only been shiteing on about it here. The aul' main forum hasn't been seeing much action recently either.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The aul' main forum hasn't been seeing much action recently either.

Yer just the man to bump this one:
https://forum.metalwarfare.com/index.php?topic=1366.0

[Pedrito]

I wonder where Joe is going to bomb first?

[Nazgûl]

The aul' main forum hasn't been seeing much action recently either.

Yer just the man to bump this one:
https://forum.metalwarfare.com/index.php?topic=1366.0

:laugh

EDIT: Actually getting into LOTR coincided with also getting massively into Led Zeppelin at whatever age I was -- at that point they were the only band I ever heard referencing Tolkien...until of course the old metal came into the equation.

[Caomhaoin]

He was out of order with that, no doubt. Bush and his PR lads were even worse with Kerry, made an absolute show out of him.

Have you had a chance to listen to that podcast you posted again? I am biased to a point but the host shrieks like a harpy. And Harris? I couldn't believe my ears with some of the bullshit he came out with.

I did. Completely take your point about the ranty nature of it letting down some of the stronger arguments they make. Still agree with the core majority of what they were saying though.

With Trump, it's the consistent lying, the shitty remarks, the seemingly zero lack of interest whatsoever in bringing people together and instead taking every opportunity to cause further divide.

Don't think he's a good president, don't think he sets any good examples for the rest of the world either.

I also don't spend much time thinking about it in my day and pretty much have only been shiteing on about it here. The aul' main forum hasn't been seeing much action recently either.

Most of what you say about Trump can't really be denied, but he has his positive points too. Good presidents have been thin on the ground in our lifetimes  in any case.

I don't think I can take Sam Harris seriously after the 'Hitler is only worse than Trump because of his virtues'. Sounds like a bum after 5 litres of wine! The few lines you've written made more sense than all the apocalyptic shite those two were coming out with (with zero, ZERO evidence for 95% of their shite). They are making, not erasing trump fan boys talking out of their holes like that.

[Nazgûl]

When singled out like that, the line by Harris does sound ridiculous. But to me it seemed like the main point buried in there around that part of the conversation was that Trump doesn't seem to ever come across as having any strong, clearly identifiable values as a leader or person -- aside from benefiting the rich and playing the lead in his own soap opera, and that he'll pander to anybody in order to be "liked" first and foremost -- including his own followers. There never seems to be a bigger picture with him.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I wonder where Joe is going to bomb first?

Mar-a-Lago.

[Caomhaoin]

I don't know lad, he strikes a chord with millions, dozens of millions, and it can't be written off as religious maniacs or what have you.

I did not support trump in the beginning but he's grown on me. He's flawed, of course, but I think his leadership qualities are underestimated. The problem is that that there is a media war (right are as bad as the left, with a sense of humour Chris and his buddies is the politburo find highly offensive)  which leads one down the garden path.

I listened to that podcast to be educated but the result is that I will not listen to Sam Harris again. The Hitler thing was just one of many totally stupid comments, as if he was in the pub.

[Nazgûl]

Fair enough, and despite everything it does fascinate me to wonder why millions voted for him and in greater numbers this time around.

I'm sure Sam Harris would be well dented by that last comment, because to be fair he's one of those people who are seen to generally make a big effort to be as objective as possible in his conversations (most of the time) and promotes open discussion with the end goal to usually...learn something himself or educate others. So he clearly hasn't done his job well on this one for you and probably plenty of others.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Apparently he's going to be speaking in about five minutes time. Trump that is.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

"If we count the legal votes, I have won. If we count the illegal votes, I haven't won." 

What's so civil about war anyway?

No, more likely, as I said above, GOP are going to drop him as soon as they can, disown him asap after his term ends.