Did you have a look at the numbers I put up? Hard to sift through every thought mugz is having I know. I don't see how it profits the state.

Posted a link already about plea bargains; around 90% conservative estimate of sentencing. Up to 20% of those may be innocent, again higher the poorer the accused, since they have less to lose and nothing to fight with.

Quote from: hellfire on June 12, 2020, 12:42:50 AM
Did you have a look at the numbers I put up? Hard to sift through every thought mugz is having I know. I don't see how it profits the state.

Will look tomorrow.


Quote from: Pedrito on June 12, 2020, 11:32:29 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBDfMQ27Asw

you don't want ben shapiro. douglas murray if you must, but youtube talking heads are mostly no good man, no offence intended to you personally.

#785 June 12, 2020, 12:57:21 PM Last Edit: June 12, 2020, 01:00:51 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
He makes a couple of good points, but most of the rest is fudged, although the video he chose is fudged too, and that's why he chose it.

If you watch again, you'll see that he actually tries to discredit some of the examples given by detailing more subtle examples of systemic racism, though not surprising coming from Ben Shapiro.

Again, a lot of his solution is the telling a depressed person to be happy route. "Get up and move out of your neighbourhood, or else don't complain about your shitty schools, or else vote Republican so that your kids can go to school elsewhere, 'cos let's face it, there's no way the school in your neighbourhood is ever going to be salvaged!" African-Americans are indeed "steered" (the word he uses) towards certain college courses, they're also prepared for them specifically via shallow vocational education in high school. He mentions this as if it's just a question of choice; it's not. It's a question of the education system deciding very early on what a kid's potential is and, from that point on, "steering" them towards it while neglecting other areas of what a proper education should consist of. And these kids' parents probably had an even worse education, which is why the kid doesn't seem to show an aptitude for things it has never been exposed to at home and now won't be at school either. The literature on the school system in the US is probably the most revealing of how systemic racism works independently of any explicit "The blacks are all stupid" style goings on.

Also, it appears he has no idea what probability or statistics or population studies actually consist of. In any case, he doesn't care: his viewership don't care about that stuff. One thing that sticks out though, and that should be remarked on, is that systemic racism impacts African-American males much more than females; this is widely acknowledged, so saying "this can't be due to racism because it impacts men but not women" doesn't hold water. It's a good litmus test of what Ben actually understands, or is trying to convince his audience of, that he rolls out such a blatant hollow argument as if it had rhetoric destroying power.

Quote from: hellfire on May 29, 2020, 08:59:41 PM
US President Donald Trump plans to sign an executive order social media on Thursday, with a draft of the measure calling for a review of a key law that gives immunity to Twitter, Facebook, Google and other sites from lawsuits over third party, user-generated content.

This basically leaves them open to litigation in the same way that a media outlet is. I'm not interested in his motivations for doing it, I am pleased that someone did. Their censorship practices will now come under scrutiny like never before. 

"A small handful of powerful social media monopolies control the vast portion of all private and public communications in the United States."

The monopoly thing is also interesting. Three of four companies should not be in a position to influence elections, have a monopoly on a certain communication type and decide what people can and cannot see.

And this afternoon, Twitter just hid one of El Presidente's tweets about the lunatics trying to set up autonomous zone in DC.
What's the odds his next executive order will be one declaring Twitter to be a publisher rather than a platform?

Pity he can't just hang Jack Dorsey for treason.

Pity he can't stop giving speeches to large (ish) crowds in states where the virus is spreading at record levels.

We need a government of change, not this sham being driven by the socialist cabal and their virtue signalling.

Quote from: astfgyl on June 24, 2020, 02:29:33 PM
We need a government of change, not this sham being driven by the socialist cabal and their virtue signalling.

We certainly do. I was never a Sinn Fein supporter and actively dislike them. Still, excluding them from government was a perversion of the democratic system. The current government shouldn't exist. Thankfully The Green Party should have it torn down in no time with their stupidity. There is definitely a market for new parties at the moment.

Cops attacking the press in the US now.  Alarm bells!


According to Channel 4 news, which has a particular lean, shall we say, and from footage they showed from across various states, the cops and possibly some vigilante groups (it seems unclear) have beaten, arrested and maced numerous legitimate journalists who have been reporting on the riots. Now, whatever your political stance may be, and if these reports are accurate, the arresting and shutting down of reporting is a worrying step for Trump to take. Assuming he has given such a directive, which wouldn't be very surprising given his general attitude towards "fake news" as he perceives it.

Assuming that is true it's really shit. Doubt it was a directive from the president, but who know. I'll look into it during the week.