The Donald vs Big Tech

[Bürggermeister]

I see Malachy Steenson was strolling about town with Tucker Carlson and McGregor there yesterday. No doubt there's some quality content on the way from that meeting of mooks.

Even so, bet you didn't see this coming

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2025/0425/1509442-freemasons-dublin/

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I see Malachy Steenson was strolling about town with Tucker Carlson and McGregor there yesterday. No doubt there's some quality content on the way from that meeting of mooks.

Even so, bet you didn't see this coming

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2025/0425/1509442-freemasons-dublin/

  

I'd seen the headline but not read it. Now I'm blaming you that I went and looked up the video. Awful shite. Didn't realize one of the Versatile lads had gone solo. Was it the other one who had all the "talent" then?    Apparently yer man's trying to grab himself a bit of Kneecap's popularity.

Nothing to see here...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-2028-apparel-sale-trump-organizations-online-store-rcna202856

Ya, but never forget that the only other option was a literal Marxist 

[Ollkiller]

Interested in seeing what kind of arguments I might find, I looked up yer wan you mentioned, Louise Perry (first time hearing of her). In this interview with The Spectator (alarm bells at the ready!), in relation to older people needing to rely on welfare, she calls the welfare state a "Ponzi scheme" and then says "it's already clear that state pensions, the NHS, and the whole welfare state is not sustainable." Doesn't mention the sustainability or otherwise of our economic model itself. Have tried to see if she comments on this, for or against, elsewhere, but no luck yet.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GZSniFfzJZs

So maybe she is also a TERFNAZIERMAHGERD, as you described her, I don't know, it's irrelevant to the subject at hand, but it is pretty clear what side her political bread is buttered on when it comes to the natalism question, and I'm sure she makes herself a tidy little income shilling it.

What an absolute shitbag. "Most people will not derive great value from their lives without children". Fuck the fuck off. If you want kids belt away. If you don't belt away as well.
As for the NHS and pensions being a ponzi scheme. Again fuck off. Pensions and health care are one of the greatest things humans have done. These cunts would have you working till you die.

[astfgyl]

Again, it's not the pensioners who need more humans, it's the economy, because the economy is a limitless growth model. Anyone advocating for pro-natalism who isn't being up front about the fact (yes) that it's the needs of the economic model driving that perception is either naïve about it or dishonest about it (or a racist or religious nut whose priorities are somewhere equally detached from concrete reality).

Is that not the same thing, as in that paying for pensioners is part of the economy

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The cost of pensioners is minuscule compared to the profits being sought from growing the numbers of consumers. So, no, it's not the same thing.

[astfgyl]

Ah yeah it's the same as universal free health care in that respect but I'm working on the assumption that nothing will be done right or fair ever so less pensioners means less mouths to feed.

Back to the pro natalism thing, well each to their own that way like if people want to have kids or don't I feel very whatever about it

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Don't underestimate the power of having a majority thinking straight and concretely about things. For example, by the time they retire, every pensioner in the west, both through their production and their consumption, will have generated capital profit for others that far outweighs any welfare they may need to see them through comfortably to their passing.

[Bürggermeister]

You're such a fucken Marxist, Chris 

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

A regular Kamala Lenin Harris me 

It's true though. And means that anyone who understands the economy and yet refers to old people as a burden is... a cock

[astfgyl]

Don't underestimate the power of having a majority thinking straight and concretely about things. For example, by the time they retire, every pensioner in the west, both through their production and their consumption, will have generated capital profit for others that far outweighs any welfare they may need to see them through comfortably to their passing.

This is one of those rare times I'm in agreement

Edit: would it not still be better if we killed them all at about 64 though

[Ollkiller]

I see they arrested a milwakee judge for obstruction. As in the judge supposedly impeded ICE officials in arresting a perp. Third world country stuff now.

[Ducky]

They've effectively said they'll be going after judges who oppose Trump.

[Eoin McLove]

Lord fuckin Jesus...

[Carnage]

The American Experiment is a failure. Nuke it.

[Emphyrio]

The arresting of a judge is ominous but in this instance, was what she did morally right but legally wrong? That being the case, is being arrested the normal protocol?