#4200 January 22, 2025, 05:24:30 PM Last Edit: January 22, 2025, 05:26:46 PM by Pentagrimes
Quote from: Don Gately on January 21, 2025, 07:22:01 PMFuck all these Cunts Trump,  musk ,Zuckerberg cunts, metal meeds to stand up

Not a fucking chance of this happening.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 22, 2025, 12:52:02 PMIf you look a little closer at the executive orders, you'll see that the real-world issue is how many actual human beings are going to be "flayed" with said knife.

The illegal ones?

Oul orange head didn't like the bishop's sermon. It was nasty he said. How dare a Bishop talk about the the values of jesus christ in a sermon. And the man child wants an apology over it.  :laugh:

#4203 January 22, 2025, 06:27:30 PM Last Edit: January 22, 2025, 07:32:06 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
Quote from: astfgyl on January 22, 2025, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 22, 2025, 12:52:02 PMIf you look a little closer at the executive orders, you'll see that the real-world issue is how many actual human beings are going to be "flayed" with said knife.

The illegal ones?

The ones they plan on making illegal, yes. In either case, actual human beings.

Have a read through what the first orders were and who they'll impact (if and when implemented):
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/21/president-donald-trump-executive-orders-list

Quote from: Ollkiller on January 22, 2025, 06:08:14 PMOul orange head didn't like the bishop's sermon. It was nasty he said. How dare a Bishop talk about the the values of jesus christ in a sermon. And the man child wants an apology over it.  :laugh:

Twas a powerful homily, and in a perfectly "blessed are the meek" kind of way. And fittingly enough, Trump is reacting as though he's had burning coals heaped on his head.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 22, 2025, 06:37:53 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on January 22, 2025, 06:08:14 PMOul orange head didn't like the bishop's sermon. It was nasty he said. How dare a Bishop talk about the the values of jesus christ in a sermon. And the man child wants an apology over it.  :laugh:

Twas a powerful homily, and in a perfectly "blessed are the meek" kind of way. And fittingly enough, Trump is reacting as though he's had burning coals heaped on his head.

I am genuinely astounded how the religious cohort think he's their saviour. When asked what his favourite passage of the bible was he said all of it. It just goes to show anyway that most religious people are hypocrites anyway who don't really follow their religion.

On policy seen the UN general thanked trump for negotiations re gaza. I wonder what he'll let bibi do re gaza and the west bank.

Some clues on that here:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/government-defeats-opposition-bill-to-apply-israeli-sovereignty-to-west-banks-jordan-valley/
QuoteA source familiar with the matter tells The Times of Israel that National Unity supports the measure because control of the Jordan Valley is a "strategic asset" and it is certain to be part of Israel under any potential future Trump administration peace plan.

#4207 January 23, 2025, 12:10:33 AM Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 12:30:04 AM by Black Shepherd Carnage
Seeing reports from a wide range of life science researchers in the US about major disruptions and shutdowns of whole swathes of activity under the NIH umbrella due to executive orders (NIH = public body responsible for all biomedical and health research). No communication about what the actual reasons are supposed to be or when and under what terms they will be able to take up again. Meanwhile, Trump has announced a $100 billion AI initiative (hello corporate tech bros!). Which also happens to be twice the annual budget of the NIH.

Edit: a write up from Science on the above:
https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-hits-nih-devastating-freezes-meetings-travel-communications-and-hiring

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 22, 2025, 06:27:30 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on January 22, 2025, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 22, 2025, 12:52:02 PMIf you look a little closer at the executive orders, you'll see that the real-world issue is how many actual human beings are going to be "flayed" with said knife.

The illegal ones?

The ones they plan on making illegal, yes. In either case, actual human beings.

Have a read through what the first orders were and who they'll impact (if and when implemented):
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/21/president-donald-trump-executive-orders-list

From what I've glanced at it looks like half the stuff he's signing won't stick but regarding the actual illegals, what's the point having immigration laws if it's legal to break them?

Maybe an amnesty before a certain date would be humane but the birthright citizenship thing looks to be enshrined in the constitution so that'll hardly work

QuoteState of play: He also signed an order withdrawing the U.S., the world's second-largest greenhouse gas emitter, from the Paris Climate Agreement.

Who do they answer to if they withdraw straight away? seriously that seems like one of those world debt questions as in who is the money owed to, exactly?

Anyway fwiw I don't think that a quarter of this shit will stick, given the inevitability of lengthy legal challenges

#4210 January 23, 2025, 12:56:17 PM Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 01:05:56 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
So we had not faulting Musk for doing a Nazi salute on the basis that he didn't formally state it was a Nazi salute, and now we've got not faulting Trump for what he's formally stated he wants done on the basis that he may not in the end be able to do it. Cool, cool.

Here he is threatening to withhold federal aid for the California fires unless the state of California acts on the basis of a falsehood he has in his head. But he probably won't get away with withholding federal aid, so he's blameless here too and no worse than any other president has ever been or ever could be. Am I doing this right? :D 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/22/trump-hannity-interview/

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 23, 2025, 12:56:17 PMSo we had not faulting Musk for doing a Nazi salute on the basis that he didn't formally state it was a Nazi salute, and now we've got not faulting Trump for what he's formally stated he wants done on the basis that he may not in the end be able to do it. Cool, cool.

Ah would you ever give up the stupid bias. It's getting knoblike at this stage.

And here was me thinking you had enough of a brain to call a spade a spade.

Then again I just call them all shovels

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 23, 2025, 01:30:45 PMHere he is threatening to withhold federal aid for the California fires unless the state of California acts on the basis of a falsehood he has in his head. But he probably won't get away with withholding federal aid, so he's blameless here too and no worse than any other president has ever been or ever could be. Am I doing this right? :D 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/22/trump-hannity-interview/

God forbid any other government or president would do anything like that.

Same crap was said about Biden and the flood wherever it was lately. I can't remember without looking it up but they were all saying some shite about Biden trying to push their shit in that time as well.

It's all just stupid and leads to inevitable outcomes just in different coloured flaying knives for us all.

You really have to grow up a bit about this and that's me saying that while still thinking that everything you think about Trump is demonstrably true on some subliminal level.

You'd be amazed how much we agree other than the fact you think there's a better side leading us all down the exact same path

"Same crap was said about Biden" "they were all saying some shite"

You're equating baseless MAGA accusations (presumably about Helene and Milton) with baseless direct quotes from Trump. The difference is that this is not about what is said about Trump: it's about what he says and orders himself, in his own words out of his own mouth in a 100% unsubliminal manner. Namely, the worst things, worse things than any other president in my living memory. So for the umpteenth time, it's not about the DNC being "better": it's about MAGA being worse. The worst. But if you think you can find direct quotes from another recent former president threatening to withhold federal aid for a natural disaster impacting the very people he was appointed to govern on the basis of a factual falsehood, by all means please do share one of those instances.