Quote from: astfgyl on November 06, 2024, 11:17:16 PMSo....

Musk buys twitter for 44 billion and uses that to buy his way into a position in government by the leverage of using it to promote a trump victory.

Stakeholder Capitalism, anyone? Now where have I heard that before...?

Who'd have thought that the Amish lads would be blowing the trumpets to herald the horsemen of the technocratic apocalypse?




Anyway, I guess that's the end of any talk of Donald vs Big Tech from here on in.....
And get his new orange buddy to impose tariffs on the competition for his other business. Who's in whose pocket again?

I guess the biggest mystery remains what possible advantage paragon of integrity Joe Rogan saw in hitching his ship to the fleet comprised of the world's richest man holding up the world's loudest megaphone to the compulsive liar mouth of the leader of the world's greatest superpower. Leave it with me, this may require deep, deep thinking!  :)

#3993 November 07, 2024, 01:28:28 PM Last Edit: November 07, 2024, 01:39:31 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
Here's a photo that for me sums up the sincerity of MAGA perfectly. As in, you'd want to have been born yesterday to buy it, yet it's racked up over half a million likes. That is where we are at. A new dark ages for rational thinking.
https://x.com/rustyrockets/status/1853950788969611343

Edit: For clarification, that's not just about MAGA and Brand, but also Musk and the likes of Tate, Rogan, etc.; this twilight combination of genuinely irrational morons (e.g. Tate) and those who may or may not be (hard to tell in some instances) cynically weaponizing irrational thinking because of how popular it makes them.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 07, 2024, 11:29:23 AMI guess the biggest mystery remains what possible advantage paragon of integrity Joe Rogan saw in hitching his ship to the fleet comprised of the world's richest man holding up the world's loudest megaphone to the compulsive liar mouth of the leader of the world's greatest superpower. Leave it with me, this may require deep, deep thinking!  :)

It must have just been the right thing to do in the name of truth and justice.

I guess all the freedom fighters really do live technocratic living after all!!

Also, I must say, the Democrats have really let me down with their non event of cheating accusations. I had that badly wrong the dignified bastards

#3995 November 07, 2024, 02:03:50 PM Last Edit: November 07, 2024, 02:08:24 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
It's not that the Democrats are dignified: it's that MAGA are a bunch of spoiled brat lying, cheating, tantrum-throwing toddlers. This is what you got badly wrong, on this point and many others. In other words: they are not and have never been "as bad as each other." It's always been the case that DNC bad, MAGA worse.


And plenty of those who would disagree would also disagree if I said, for example, that evolution is a biological fact. And just like that, when I say MAGA are worse, it's not primarily a question of opinion:

Are MAGA worse losers? Objectively and empirically yes.
Are MAGA more brazen liars? Objectively and empirically yes.

We could carry on by other objective criteria.



Plenty who agree with you believe, contrary to every single embryologist in the world, that life doesn't begin at conception so...

Anyways. The lads I don't like are worse than my team because they lie more and are sore losers. It's fairly narrow, if it's even measurable. And a tad petty. Trump didn't start any wars, you could put that in his plus column. He hasn't yet facilitated a genocide yet either :/

#3999 November 07, 2024, 03:07:04 PM Last Edit: November 07, 2024, 03:11:26 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
The DNC are not "my team" and framing it that way is just an immature way of side-stepping concrete issues. As I've said before, and said on MI at the time, back in 2016 I was solidly in camp 'completely suspended judgment' as to who would be worse between Clinton and Trump. Since then, based on eight years of observation of facts which have occurred in concrete reality, I have updated my evaluation of Trump and consider him and MAGA to be worse than Biden or Harris and the DNC. He has an absolute disregard for the truth, which creates a situation where, if they don't want to contradict their cult leader figure, his followers either have to be or to act stupid, in the very concrete objective sense of acting in ignorance (willful or otherwise) of the reality. That is a big deal as far as I'm concerned. That they're sore losers is less of a big deal per se, but because it is intimately related in fact to the lying that makes it part of the bigger deal.

[btw, biologically speaking, life doesn't "begin" at conception since both the spermatozoon and the egg are already living organisms in their own right.]


#4001 November 07, 2024, 03:33:18 PM Last Edit: November 07, 2024, 03:35:55 PM by Caomhaoin
Human life does, in fact, begin at conception. So, 'biologically speaking' (and 96% plus of biologists will back me up), you're dead wrong. You may place less worth on human life in its embryonic stage, but considering you're the big science guy, you're making a tit of yourself there.

Call my attitude immature all you like, you're doing a bit of side stepping the wars or genocides or lack thereof. Maybe they are bigger deals than politicians bullshitting.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 07, 2024, 02:03:50 PMIt's not that the Democrats are dignified: it's that MAGA are a bunch of spoiled brat lying, cheating, tantrum-throwing toddlers. This is what you got badly wrong, on this point and many others. In other words: they are not and have never been "as bad as each other." It's always been the case that DNC bad, MAGA worse.

No, I still disagree that they're any better but I don't mind admitting things that I did get wrong.

It was always a case of a technocratic outcome anyway with this one, it's just a question of which flavour technocracy one prefers.

Digital id to keep out immigrants or digital id to protect one another through vaccinations or the green agenda.

Turns out more wanted to justify it through the immigrants

Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 07, 2024, 02:34:41 PMPlenty who agree with you believe, contrary to every single embryologist in the world, that life doesn't begin at conception so...

Anyways. The lads I don't like are worse than my team because they lie more and are sore losers. It's fairly narrow, if it's even measurable. And a tad petty. Trump didn't start any wars, you could put that in his plus column. He hasn't yet facilitated a genocide yet either :/

You're right in that he didn't do any wars. His deal with the taliban was heinous as was Bidens withdrawl. Fight an enemy for 10 years only to give them back power, thus fucking every woman in the country. Whoever is in power their forigen policy is fucked.

Syria, Libya the list goes on. Convincing the masses that Putin invaded Ukraine because he's a psycho full stop so we have to keep arming them and kibosh peace talks. Hilary Clinton, Liz Cheney etc are the real psychos.

A genuine anti-war mass movement is needed over there. Even political commissar Chris and SS LIEBSTANDARTE obergruppenführer Kev could unite for that.