Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 07, 2024, 04:44:42 PMA genuine anti-war mass movement is needed over there. Even political commissar Chris and SS LIEBSTANDARTE obergruppenführer Kev could unite for that.

They tried it already, no dice. Too much control, too many guns, too many warlike people. Attempting to take away their guns or control would likely result in a civil war. Feels very American that a war may be needed to prevent wars.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 07, 2024, 04:44:42 PMSyria, Libya the list goes on. Convincing the masses that Putin invaded Ukraine because he's a psycho full stop so we have to keep arming them and kibosh peace talks. Hilary Clinton, Liz Cheney etc are the real psychos.

A genuine anti-war mass movement is needed over there. Even political commissar Chris and SS LIEBSTANDARTE obergruppenführer Kev could unite for that.

I've read a few books on Putin. He's a total psychopath.

If Trump had been president when Bibi came to the US to convince them that Iraq had WMD, would he have gone to war? Indubitably. In fact, had Trump been president in 2023, there might already be troops on the ground in the Middle East. Yes, that is pure speculation. But the point is that historical circumstance has more to do with which presidents go to war and which don't so I don't in any way feel compelled to give Trump any "points" for not having done so. He maintained lethal US foreign policy to the letter and very much favoured the degradation of the situation in the Middle East via his move of the embassy to Jerusalem, as I've mentioned before. If we're doing points, he loses a massive one there. As well as for encouraging the absolute lunatic psychopath mega church pastors to pursue their engineering of Armageddon ideology. Those lads (and lasses) are as bad as Ben-Gvir any day of the week.

[100% of biologists will tell you that spermatozoon are living organisms. Even the bible and Catholic church had rudimentary recognition of this, hence the ban on coming on the ground and more modern means of contraception, respectively. What you're angling after is when the life of an individual human being begins, and that's a much thornier issue which biology alone can't answer. Ask any biologist.]

He may or may not be, and he's not done his image any favours, clearly, but I mean he didn't invade Ukraine just because he's a megalomaniac or an imperialist (he may very well be those things). There are other sinister actors at play.

It's a pity it's young Ukrainian and Russian men paying for it. I was at a makeshift memorial in Moscow when I was there a few weeks ago, all the photos of dead young lads, the candles. Horrifyng.


If anyone thinks the election of Trump is something other than a clusterfuck they are deluded, the next 4 years will be all about him feathering his nest and fucking over anyone who crossed him, nothing more and nothing less. He has zero brains for the nuances of politics.

@Chris.

I'm not angling after anything. I'm pointing out the biological fact (not a thorny issue at all) that human life begins at the moment of conception. You've concocted some slimy word salad to evade that fact. But the fact remains, a new, genetically distinct human life begins at the moment of fertilisation . Take your own advice and ask any biologist.

Under natural conditions, up to 40% of fertilized eggs fail to even reach implantation stage. It is not generally considered that this represents annual deaths of tens of millions of human beings. Under natural conditions, it generally happens unbeknownst to all involved.

Quote from: The Heretic on November 07, 2024, 05:40:31 PMIf anyone thinks the election of Trump is something other than a clusterfuck they are deluded, the next 4 years will be all about him feathering his nest and fucking over anyone who crossed him, nothing more and nothing less. He has zero brains for the nuances of politics.

Just like his first term so.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 07, 2024, 05:38:39 PMHe may or may not be, and he's not done his image any favours, clearly, but I mean he didn't invade Ukraine just because he's a megalomaniac or an imperialist (he may very well be those things). There are other sinister actors at play.

It's a pity it's young Ukrainian and Russian men paying for it. I was at a makeshift memorial in Moscow when I was there a few weeks ago, all the photos of dead young lads, the candles. Horrifyng.

I can only imagine. The shit he pulled when climbing the ladder in St petersburg is mental. I call him a psychopath as he has no problem putting hundreds of thousands of his own soldiers through the meat grinder to keep the proxy war going (as America are doing) so him and the cronies can keep their power/money train going.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 07, 2024, 06:26:21 PMUnder natural conditions, up to 40% of fertilized eggs fail to even reach implantation stage. It is not generally considered that this represents annual deaths of tens of millions of human beings. Under natural conditions, it generally happens unbeknownst to all involved.

That's all true (believe me, I've done my homework on this), but it doesn't alter the fact that, biologically speaking, as you say, a distinct human life is created at fertilisation.

Fuckin' hell, presumably you're less pedantic when you get pulled up for wet footprints in the bathroom or dirty socks left out at home 😂

Quote from: Ollkiller on November 07, 2024, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 07, 2024, 05:38:39 PMHe may or may not be, and he's not done his image any favours, clearly, but I mean he didn't invade Ukraine just because he's a megalomaniac or an imperialist (he may very well be those things). There are other sinister actors at play.

It's a pity it's young Ukrainian and Russian men paying for it. I was at a makeshift memorial in Moscow when I was there a few weeks ago, all the photos of dead young lads, the candles. Horrifyng.

I can only imagine. The shit he pulled when climbing the ladder in St petersburg is mental. I call him a psychopath as he has no problem putting hundreds of thousands of his own soldiers through the meat grinder to keep the proxy war going (as America are doing) so him and the cronies can keep their power/money train going.

The gigantic national egos of both Russia and the US make it impossible for any climb down that has the merest hint of losing face. A lot more lives are going to be pissed up the wall before a compromise is reached.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 07, 2024, 06:38:55 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 07, 2024, 06:26:21 PMUnder natural conditions, up to 40% of fertilized eggs fail to even reach implantation stage. It is not generally considered that this represents annual deaths of tens of millions of human beings. Under natural conditions, it generally happens unbeknownst to all involved.

That's all true (believe me, I've done my homework on this), but it doesn't alter the fact that, biologically speaking, as you say, a distinct human life is created at fertilisation.

Fuckin' hell, presumably you're less pedantic when you get pulled up for wet footprints in the bathroom or dirty socks left out at home 😂

Judging by how often you do so on here, presumably you bring up abortion when you get pulled up for wet footprints in the bathroom  :)

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She takes no notice, she thinks I'm a crank.

I didn't bring up abortion per se, and although I sympathise with the abolitionist boys, the people have spoken on the issue.

Lads, I just come to this thread to masturbate and all this talk of abortion is killing my horn.