State of that video. Blathering like an idiot, no concept of what the question was but sure, throw in the old 'let's make America great again' and get the audience back on side. I wouldn't be a fan of any our politicians but at least they can string together a reasonably coherent sentence or failing that, avoid a question with some degree of nuance.

Quote from: Ollkiller on September 06, 2024, 12:13:15 PMIt's a word salad of epic proportions there. Not the first fucking clue what he's talking about. If that was Biden (when he was still running) he'd be lynched for being senile. But no one pulls Trump up on it.

Ah they do, just not conservatives. Same way you don't see democrats criticising Harris. Most people don't look at the claims of the side they don't like.

You've surely noticed the entire left leaning media call trump out for nearly the last decade since he said he was running for the Republicans. Same on the other side re Clinton, Biden and now Harris.

They're all so partisan and some of each sides claims are true and verifiably so, which only serves to further entrench the entrenched.

As for Putin, he'd be crazy not to support trump given the relations when trump was in office vs now and I'd be certain (without proof, even) that any Russian interference would be to the benefit of oul Donald.

Then again, Hunter Biden's laptop wasn't Russian disinformation, was it?

I'm fairly sure if I can be arsed I'll find some of the leftier lads here quoting the 51 intelligence agents at the time saying it was Russian interference even though it was actually interference on the part of those agents.

Putin wants Dopey Don back in like you would not believe so the efforts at destabilising the west and undermining NATO can resume without interference before he runs out of convicts.

Quote from: Bürggermeister on September 06, 2024, 05:51:13 PMPutin wants Dopey Don back in like you would not believe so the efforts at destabilising the west and undermining NATO can resume without interference before he runs out of convicts.

Yup. Defo wants Trump in. Remeber when Trump said he believed Putin over the
FBI. That shows that either Trump admires dictators as he wants to be one or Putin has something on him.
Also seen today he again said he would give Musk a job at streamlining government. That won't go down well with government employees.

Quote from: Bürggermeister on September 06, 2024, 05:51:13 PMPutin wants Dopey Don back in like you would not believe so the efforts at destabilising the west and undermining NATO can resume without interference before he runs out of convicts.

NATO absolutely should be undermined. They are not the good guys any more than putin is. They have a lot of blood on their hands and plenty more to come. Just look at the conditions for joining NATO and who benefits from those conditions in terms of profits. It's as corrupt as anything else really

We'll agree to disagree, there.

Quote from: Bürggermeister on September 06, 2024, 07:26:38 PMWe'll agree to disagree, there.

In my own head I could easily make the case for NATO and their point of existing but what it is at the minute just seems like consensus for yank advancement. The original case was likely not intended as that. Then the weapons have to be NATO standard within a certain length of time and lo and behold it's the raytheon and Lockheed Martin standard - private weapons companies making private profits. Why can't they do a socialist version of weapons making? Because of lobbying, lobbying for war, lobbying for the threat of war to perpetuate the arms race. Never a lobby for peace though. Now don't get me wrong this is not at all in support of whatever is the anti NATO either because I'm certain they are just as bad and lobbied equally hard for it.

It's all just rotten and I find myself perpetually disillusioned with everything both left and right because none of it is the resolution of conflict it's all just the product of lobbying for all outcomes. How depressing that we really haven't learned anything since the cold War or even long before that. Might is right and whoever wins gets to be the good guys.

Ah jaysus to everything really as I see it

I mean, what NATO did in Yugoslavia wasn't exactly a demonstration of above-board transparent purely humanitarian intervention. I might lean towards trusting NATO more than Putin, but certainly wouldn't trust them flat out at all.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 06, 2024, 11:05:55 PMI mean, what NATO did in Yugoslavia wasn't exactly a demonstration of above-board transparent purely humanitarian intervention. I might lean towards trusting NATO more than Putin, but certainly wouldn't trust them flat out at all.

I agree with you way more than is apparent but I'm not soft as to the fact that everything is very wrong no matter which side we take

Here for this..?

QuoteApple has lost its fight against the European Commission's ruling that it underpaid €13bn in tax due to Ireland.

The European Court of Justice has set aside the judgment of the lower General Court, which previously overturned the Commission's decision.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0910/1469236-europes-highest-court-to-rule-on-13bn-apple-tax-case/

It would be very difficult for the Gov the refuse that money with the state of everything however I don't think we get all that money, does it have to be split amongst other EU countries?

Quote from: The Heretic on September 10, 2024, 10:47:25 AMIt would be very difficult for the Gov the refuse that money with the state of everything however I don't think we get all that money, does it have to be split amongst other EU countries?
No it's our money

They don't want it though because it sets a precedent of some sort iirc.

Let's be fair, they'd only piss it up against a wall anyway.

Here come those identity cards you've been waiting for, but they'll be solid fucken gold!

Quote from: Bürggermeister on September 10, 2024, 06:08:58 PMHere come those identity cards you've been waiting for, but they'll be solid fucken gold!

 :laugh: I can't think of any outcome that doesn't lead to digital ID in any circumstance