Sure just look at the state of the media produced and targeted at Republican voters. That's where the real insult to people's intelligence is, not in anyone objectively describing the general education system in the US as an absolute, albeit largely intentional, failure. And yeah, Trump has already personally stated that project 2025 thing, saying he'll close the department of education. No cause for concern!!

What, and Kamala Harris' promo is any better?

Best not to make sweeping generalisations about 80 million people because they like the guy you don't with, at best, crass and unoriginal barbs like ill-educated.

As for misinformed, the view, morning Joe and proven liar Rachel Maddow (a lesbian who loves vaccines, you must follow her on instagram) are vehemently anti-Trump and doggedly produce the most inane, hysterical bullshit out there.

Quote from: Ollkiller on August 14, 2024, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on August 14, 2024, 05:41:07 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 14, 2024, 05:18:09 PMIt's just called good electoral strategy. Trump's team have displayed precisely none of it. Maybe they were scared their ill-educated, misinformed mass voter base would accuse them of a DEI choice!


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 14, 2024, 05:18:09 PMIt's just called good electoral strategy. Trump's team have displayed precisely none of it. Maybe they were scared their ill-educated, misinformed mass voter base would accuse them of a DEI choice!



Call it what you want, she wasn't hired on merit.

Ill-educated, misinformed voter base. What a cretinous statement. What, like they didn't go to college like you and all the other university smart cunts? Neither did most of my family.

If you're third level educated you're more likely to vote democrat. If you're poorly educated you're more likely to vote republican. All the data backs that up. Like one of the tenets of project 2025 was to defund the department of education. The republicans want a poorly educated electorate.

Now that doesn't mean you should vote democrat or republican based on your education level. You should vote on policies. Believe it or not I hate the Democrats as well. They talk a good talk but are wedged to big business and don't deliver on their promises. Just I hate the republican party more. If I could vote in the usa, I would have voted for John McCain. A proper republican.

Grand post, but the correlation of college educated and being somehow a higher calibre of voter is spurious.

Not often I'd completely agree with BSC and totally disagree with young Kev but here we are.


The missus musta slipped something in my tea  :laugh:

I am reaching somewhat, because in my heart of hearts, I think Trump is fucked now.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on August 14, 2024, 06:09:02 PMBest not to make sweeping generalisations about 80 million people because they like the guy you don't with, at best, crass and unoriginal barbs like ill-educated.

They're ill-educated through no fault of their own and it doesn't mean they're naturally unintelligent. It's because I believe good education works that I believe neglecting education is criminal. The Democrats are pretty much just as guilty for the overall state of things in general education in the US. Fact remains that Republicans more than Democrats specifically target the demographically worst educated, as in pointedly and knowingly exploit the fact that they have millions of poorly educated voters who are all the easier to misinform, especially in terms of distracting their attention away from what are genuinely the most vital issues for them and their families.

Same old song like, GOP are just a particularly blatant example of it in the world today. Get them country folk in a tizzy about woke and all that mad satanic city shit, moral panics, yadda yadda: don't be acting surprised about political machinations you've known about for at least 20 years. The GOP work by classic tabloid logic, full stop: Fox News... Murdoch... I mean, you're right, I'm not saying anything original here at all. But I'm not being crass: that's the cunts twisting the dials.

Quote from: Emphyrio on August 14, 2024, 06:15:28 PMNot often I'd completely agree with BSC and totally disagree with young Kev but here we are.

Might pour meself a whiskey to mark the occasion!  :laugh:

Quote from: Caomhaoin on August 14, 2024, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on August 14, 2024, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on August 14, 2024, 05:41:07 PMGrand post, but the correlation of college educated and being somehow a higher calibre of voter is spurious.

Never said it was. Just outlined what the demographic is. A vote is a vote. Unless you're JD Vance who says an American with a family should have more votes than a person without kids. Idiot.

See that musk trump interview. The bit where musk said he'd take a job streamlining the public service and trump going ya you're a great cutter. As in jobs. This won't play well at all. Already the unions are going wtf. Basically saying we'll cut American jobs. How do you think that's going to play well with American voters.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 14, 2024, 06:45:26 PM
Quote from: Emphyrio on August 14, 2024, 06:15:28 PMNot often I'd completely agree with BSC and totally disagree with young Kev but here we are.

Might pour meself a whiskey to mark the occasion!  :laugh:

Could be quote of the week. :laugh:

Paddy Power (avoid the whiskeys in that name if you're having one lad) have Harris odds on now.

As regards Vance, I presume the thinking was that he was converted into Magacist after being highly critical of Trump, so you can be too kind of thing.

The title of his book 'Hillbilly Elegy' is to me what the sound of the ice cream van is to a 7 year old, as you can imagine.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on August 14, 2024, 10:44:19 AMAs regards Ukraine, it could be argued that the principal trigger for the conflict was the continued expansion of NATO.
It could be argued, but it is the official Putin line you'd be regurgitating and quite divorced from reality. In short, you're talking utter bollocks.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2019/05/16/glazyev-tapes-continued-ukraine-presents-new-details-of-russian-takeover-of-crimea-and-financing-of-separatism/

Perhaps if Vlad hadn't been fucking around in the affairs of another country, Ukraine might not have eventually courted NATO long after all this bullshit.

Your second paragraph doesn't make sense. 'Divorced from reality' ha ha.

NATO chiefs have acknowledged publicly that their organisation's expansion contributed to the conflagration. I merely stated that one could argue the point which sounder intellects than mine like Professor Mearsheimer and others have explained eloquently enough. They are easy to find.

https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/nato-chief-admits-expansion-behind-russian-invasion?format=amp

You clearly feel quite strongly, but it doesn't hurt to look at it from the contrarian position rather than 'Putin is Hitler' etc.

Also making your point with a link to a euromaidan article is foolish.

It's got to sting, lad, but you're not the first to fall for the lies. You won't be the last. Don't belive me, take it form the horse's mouth

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67828