https://x.com/coachMattB77/status/1827191332105830515?t=t-TPXtIFZd_MBIgPsqxVrQ&s=19

Here's kennedys speech from the other day which is quite convincing if you can convince yourself that the Republicans are somehow better, which they aren't.

Bobby novax is a strange oul fucker, no doubt about, even if you're not a bear.


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 24, 2024, 08:35:15 PMRFK content, get your RFK content:
https://x.com/Pleightx/status/1827363145456697735

That's it in a nutshell and I'm seeing accounts now who rubbished him for being a Democrat suddenly lauding him for throwing in with Trump

#3499 August 25, 2024, 10:06:23 AM Last Edit: August 25, 2024, 10:55:57 AM by leatherface
The media fawning over Harris is deeply troubling. I distinctly recall last year the same media were asking where the hell she even was, now she is the saviour of the western world all of a sudden. The bias isn't even subtle.

Quote from: leatherface on August 25, 2024, 10:06:23 AMThe media fawning over Harris is deeply troubling. I distinctly recall last year the same media were asking where the hell she even was, now she is the saviour of the western world all of a sudden. The bias isn't even subtle.

It's the exact same level of subtlety that they had during the Biden campaign and indeed right up until they couldn't pretend they hadn't noticed he was senile any more. Funny part is, if trump was a Democrat they'd be fawning over him in the same fashion as they have before. Anyone who looks can see it unless they're hopelessly biased themselves. The same can be applied to Trump coverage from conservative sources BTW, its just not as well played and a little less mainstream in terms of traditional press

Harris seems to be doing well lately. I'm hopeful that she will continue to build momentum and Hoover up the voters in the centre. I'm not bothered particularly whether the Republicans or Democrats are in power, but I detest Trump. Another four years of insanity with him at the helm is very unappealing and Harris and her team by all accounts are, at least rhetorically, moving away from a whacky far left extremist approach that would only fuel the fire for Trump, and in doing so they are playing a better game. One that may seek to leave the loopers on both sides out on the fringes and leave Trump with his dick in his hand. Here's hoping.

I dunno. I think all roads lead to Rome in any case and I would dislike Harris every bit as much as I would dislike Trump as a front for whoever is really running that place

Not me. Trump is too deranging to listen to. I can't comprehend how those who support him or find him the lesser of two evils (how???) jumped on every gaffe made by Old Joe. Despite being a dithery, doddery proto- corpse, he was infinitely more palatable and coherent than Trump.

#3504 August 25, 2024, 12:56:53 PM Last Edit: August 25, 2024, 01:01:02 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
Harris is Obama 2.0, plain and simple, and being pushed the same way Obama was. Which is not the same way Biden was being promoted. It wouldn't have been possible to push Biden in the same way as Harris or Obama. DNC definitely not making any friends among anti-war, "real" left base, but they're counting on them also being the most repulsed by the idea of Trump, which is a safe, albeit manipulative, bet.

#3505 August 25, 2024, 01:10:41 PM Last Edit: August 25, 2024, 01:12:42 PM by Eoin McLove
I suppose the reality of the situation is that the job entails a greater or lesser amount of dirty work, depending on the geopolitical events that are going on at the time. So if a president comes out the other side squeaky clean, it probably had less to do with them as a person than it does with the wider mechanism behind them and the wars they are lucky enough to have avoided in the time frame they were in office. So yeah, they are a kind of brand or public face. But that's not to say they don't have power as we've seen with Trump's 4 years which were chaotic. That had a lot to do with world and national events,  but also his inability to be a calming, moderating force. He was the exact opposite.

I find myself concerned more and more with Musk, as well. He is undoubtedly a genius and a visionary in terms of his science work. I find his big thinking inspiring. But on the flip side his takeover of Twitter has turned it from one cess pool into another. If he is trolling then it's bizarre that his subtlety of thinking, his creativity and insights in technology are so glaringly absent in his blatant and ugly lap-doggery to Trump. Is he just not clever enough to know he isn't remotely funny? He should stick to what he does well and leave the comedy and social commentary alone. If Trump got in and Musk was sucking his orange dick the way he has been, I wonder what kind of extra power and reach it would give to Trump. And I'm not sure what publicly fellating Trump has to do with free speech.



Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 25, 2024, 01:10:41 PMSo yeah, they are a kind of brand or public face. But that's not to say they don't have power as we've seen with Trump's 4 years which were chaotic. That had a lot to do with world and national events,  but also his inability to be a calming, moderating force. He was the exact opposite.

The Democrats are currently the conservative force, in the sense that they merely want to carry on with the global US system that has been in place party-switch after party-switch for decades. MAGA want to warp that system into something worse. Folk go on about Trump not starting any wars, but he's more responsible for the environment in the Middle East in the lead up to Oct 7 than Biden, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, etc. Sure Netanyahu named a settlement after him: Trump Heights. That's kind of a side issue to what they have planned at home, but it's very much related to the same insane power Evangelical Christians have within MAGA and had in the White House when he was there and in the Supreme Court ever since. Mythology twinned with the most advanced military machinery humankind has ever known. The apocalyptic irony!

Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 25, 2024, 12:40:59 PMNot me. Trump is too deranging to listen to. I can't comprehend how those who support him or find him the lesser of two evils (how???) jumped on every gaffe made by Old Joe. Despite being a dithery, doddery proto- corpse, he was infinitely more palatable and coherent than Trump.

Funny how perspectives work because I would see that the exact opposite way while thinking it's all bad at the same time