Well that protest seems to have gone off without any shite happening. All we have to do now is wait two weeks for it to be the cause of rising case numbers in the Cork area.

Definitely feel myself going out of my mind with boredom  and this is even when I'm keeping busy.

#2657 March 08, 2021, 05:02:42 PM Last Edit: March 08, 2021, 05:08:15 PM by astfgyl
UK stuff, but basically how to make people take things they don't want to take.

https://www.local.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/Vaccination%20do%20and%20donts%20by%20audience%20cohorts.pdf

The one for young people is funny. "acknowledge that their lives are ruined for a year but reassure them that there is no getting back to normal without the vaccine, and they are at the bottom of the list because of the minimal risk involved to them"

I feel like since sometime around last summer this has all become one big hard sell. I know a lot won't agree with me, but it's the same basic vibe I get when the travellers are at the door trying to sell me something and I don't want it but they won't fuck off all the same, and at the same time I get the vibe that they aren't just looking over my shoulder into the house because they are easily distracted. Pure Richard Nixon.


Along similar lines; "We can be zero" is the tagline of our resident zero-covid group, featuring professor gerry killeen of UCC, who predicted 60,000 deaths in this country if we didn't lock down (and also the sky was going to fall in, but sure hey if it didn't happen that proves it was because of what we did to prevent it, because correlation always equals causation as we all know ).

My favourite quote from it was "Let's also consider a set up with a rigged presenter". Surely they can't have rigged presenters in the media!? Surely the media are there in public service to provide the platform for debate in an impartial manner?

Anyway, here: https://gript.ie/frankly-id-prefer-to-sort-this-out-with-a-good-hurley-and-no-witnesses-zero-covid-group/

The links on the page have more of the same story.



Shape-shifting politicos....  :laugh:
Who'd have thunk it...  :laugh: :laugh:

Quote from: astfgyl on March 11, 2021, 02:28:39 PM
https://www.thejournal.ie/fianna-fail-ard-fheis-3-2068639-Apr2015/

You will find 100s of contradictions of what these politicians say anywhere astfgyl.  A better release is a wank I feel.

Quote from: Blackout on March 11, 2021, 04:33:24 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on March 11, 2021, 02:28:39 PM
https://www.thejournal.ie/fianna-fail-ard-fheis-3-2068639-Apr2015/

You will find 100s of contradictions of what these politicians say anywhere astfgyl.  A better release is a wank I feel.

Oh I just thought that one was particularly funny. If I was looking to find the contradictions I could make a life's work of it. I have meself well wanked as it is though ,and would also highly recommend it.

#2663 March 12, 2021, 07:59:39 PM Last Edit: March 12, 2021, 08:08:58 PM by Pedrito
Well worth a watch. The Chinese government, as suspected, are pure scum.

In fairness it's not just an all out assault on the Chinese and well worth a watch.


https://youtu.be/XIXKJXsiBFc

It is worth a watch, and he's totally right about the need for a full and open investigation exploring all hypotheses, just as Joe is right about how it became taboo to show support for any idea Trump got behind.

BUT I do think Metzl should be a little more hypothetical and with-holding of conclusions himself. "What are the chances...?" are good reasons for deciding to test or investigate a hypothesis, but not good reasons for giving the idea that it means it's absolutely correct (though he may indeed be absolutely correct). I think a lot of people will come away from watching that just reinforced in ideas they've been holding without good reason for a very long time. Ah well. Anyway, was a good listen.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 13, 2021, 01:08:37 PM
I think a lot of people will come away from watching that just reinforced in ideas they've been holding without good reason for a very long time.

Like thinking it sprung up in a wet market last December, for example. I haven't watched the video though, so I dunno what it is he is saying.

My bet is we will never find out the origin of it. Well certainly not when we have the WHO sending a lad strongly connected to the lab to investigate it at any rate! Jokes aside, I think we'll never know.


Quote from: blessed1 on March 14, 2021, 12:02:39 PM
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/use-astrazeneca-vaccine-suspended-ireland-23713271

Precautionary but probably right step. 11 million vaccinated in England with this vaccine and 1 reported clot so I dont see much in this tbh.

#2668 March 14, 2021, 09:34:12 PM Last Edit: March 14, 2021, 10:38:31 PM by astfgyl
Here is something I've just come across that pretty much changes the entire game if (and I mean if) it's true. Not a peep about it in any major news source as of yet, but we shall see. If it is true, then it might mean that antibiotics rather than mRNA vaccines are the actual answer to the riddle, and the whole mRNA approach is completely wrong and unnecessary. An article here explaining the basic premise and some links to the research in there (will have to translate from Italian, comes up automatically in my browser but dunno about others). Anyway, have a read, it's very interesting.

https://scenarieconomici.it/moltissimo-di-cio-che-ci-dicono-su-virus-e-vaccini-e-sbagliato-il-resto-e-nascosto/

Edit: The actual published paper is here, and the list of contributors on it looks good.

https://zenodo.org/record/4088208#.YE6KnE8XadO


Speaking of not a peep in the media.....


https://youtu.be/QAHi3lX3oGM

Really listen to this chap, speaking the common sense we all know in our hearts regardless of what the media and the vaccine salesmen would try to have us believe. Well worth the 20 minutes of anyone's time even if one is not a skeptic at all. The media and especially social media bias on this whole thing is actually fucking sick. His comments on herd immunity coming before the vaccines go a long way to explaining the massive drive to make it compulsory as quick as possible, when the actual method of transmission and replication is still being studied (as in the paper I linked above). Also, for anyone who doesn't know already, there cannot be an EUA (Emergency Use Authorisation) granted for the vaccines unless there were no existing treatments available, so there is the simple explanation for the denial of HCQ and Ivermectin; to get the approval for the experimental gene therapy or whatever the fuck it is that they all want us to be jabbed with (calling it a vaccine isn't even right as it doesn't even meet the current definition of one, look it up yourselves instead of not believing me).

Now sure think about the actions of governments and police still using the threat of hospitals being overrun to keep the place locked up, and the actions of NPHET in advising them to do so. Doctors from all over the world silenced, when information about treatments which would have precisely kept the hospital numbers down was exactly what was needed. All the tinfoil hat cunts like myself have been reading this stuff for the last 12 months, and yet these wankers on about 300 grand a year can't go find that information..... really? Ivermectin isn't even tried in this country (only approved for animals) but the experimental vaccine with the lack of safety data (without even proper animal trials) sure as fucking hell is being banged out. Brown envelope much, government? Fucking spastics. Even if it didn't work, it could have been tried, but it's too cheap so hope for the pals at Gilead or Regeneron to come up with something extremely expensively licensed instead, regardless of the efficacy being worse than the cheaper and safer alternatives, and keep us all masked up and locked to within 5k of our homes on pain of a fine  to keep the desire for salvation going strong with something where the risk has been entirely blown out of all proportion for the general public.

Doctors in this country spoke out and were silenced or retired, such as Dr Martin Feeley and also Dr Pat Morrissey and also Dr Marcus De Brun (who resigned from the medical council in protest at the sending of sick patients from hospitals into nursing homes, which coincidentally accounts for the greatest share of the death count) to name 3 off the top of my head. And yet the general public still going around with this fucking shit in their heads that somehow we are all in this together and the cavalry is coming etc etc. All in it together when the salesmen are willing to let people die to get their shitty experimental treatment the EUA. Fuck sake, who can't actually see through this bollix yet? Have we learned nothing from the swine flu debacle and nothing from the stories of the brown envelopes between government representatives and developers prior to the crash of 2008? Why do we think that the pharma companies can't just buy the right few cunts just as the developers did?

So basically people have been allowed to die as part of the sales pitch. In this country as well as everywhere else, with the notable exception of India where HCQ and Ivermectin are given in a pack worth about 2 euro to everyone who tests positive. Put it down to confusion and incompetence on the part of government and advisors if ye like, but that's a load of bollix too.