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Started by The Butcher, February 13, 2020, 12:23:10 AM

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#2565 February 20, 2021, 03:43:34 PM
https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1362522700158291979

Creepy as fuck. Basically blackmailing an entire population. "you can see your family and friends again if you just take the vaccine". Whether it works or not or turns out to be completely harmless or not, that is as creepy as fuck. Nightmare stuff.
#2566 February 20, 2021, 03:50:34 PM
You can see your friends and family again once the population immunity has risen sufficiently. I don't suppose you'd find it creepy if an identical spot was made promoting a different route to herd immunity, but the end objective is identical. You've just primed yourself to react negatively to anything that leans in a certain direction. Quite possibly this spot will achieve very little, but I guess people are just trying to do what they can think of to combat all the absolute horseshit about vaccines that circulates on social media, including WhatsApp.
#2567 February 20, 2021, 04:01:38 PM
No it's the language that is creepy. They actually said to take it to see your friends and family. Whatever about addressing unfounded rumours that's fair enough because I've read a lot of shit about it as well. There have been many spots encouraging people to get it, just as there is with the flu shot every year and I've no problem with it. Having people over a barrel to take something that is not yet proven to work is the part that creeps me out. Say it works and shit goes back to normal, fair enough but that's not proven at all yet. Also, shit is never going back to normal no matter what the vaccine does or doesn't do, so it's a false promise. Many people are seeing their friends and family regardless and have been doing it since the beginning without the shot. Can't imagine any other approach getting an ad like that either.
#2568 February 20, 2021, 04:04:55 PM
Not explicitly said, but it does seem to be targeting older folk from ethnic minority groups too, the ones who are most at risk among the most at risk.
#2569 February 20, 2021, 04:13:01 PM
Yeah I read that bit, that the BAME communities are the most paranoid about taking it and it might be with the very best of intentions as there is some evidence that those groups seem to be disproportionally affected by covid. There is a school of thought as well that the reason for this is less to do with genetics than it is to do with social status and the ability to work from home, but that is thus far unproven either. Also I may as well state that I hope the vaccine does work and I'm not against the idea in principle whatsoever. I just found that ad made my skin crawl.

Then of course the skepticism is not helped by things like this newsweek "fact check" https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-india-ban-pfizer-covid-vaccine-biontech-coronavirus-1570158

Have a read of that and tell me if you see anything wrong with it.

#2570 February 23, 2021, 11:10:07 PM
All those wacky theorists with their crazy covid trojan horse ideas... as if there was some sort of evidence of chicanery or something. Crazy bastards, thinking there might be something involving a globalist organisation of elites happening right under our noses in the guise of public safety. Nah, couldn't happen. Not in this day and age..

https://mobile.twitter.com/wef/status/1364258722898452481

Lol

In 2030 you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. All we need is a global event to usher in the new era. If only one would come along..
#2571 February 23, 2021, 11:39:29 PM
Small bit of vaccine data here from the UK government regarding adverse effects. What it doesn't do is give the number of shots given to allow for a risk assessment and also doesn't mention what level of severity or length of duration so it's not saying anything for or against the shot, it's just figures for anyone curious enough.

https://t.co/MejYM99zzI?amp=1

Can't wait for the doctor to read them all out as part of a policy of informed consent.
#2572 February 25, 2021, 02:11:18 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/PerpetualValue/status/1364602149829816325

Isn't it crazy, the notion that "if the punishment for a crime is a fine, then that crime only exists for the lower classes" seems so absurd and horribly skewed on the face of it but is also how it all works?

That's no connection to the link btw but I was talking about it the other day with a chap and we were thinking about that concept.

So why is the punishment a fine and not immediate arrest and quarantine if the risk to public health is so great?

Can't really be justified can it?

Hope ye are all acting as if ye have it and are infectious to the point where ye won't touch your family or bird because if you love them you wouldn't endanger them by giving them this deadly virus by touching them.

If you are touching them then you must think that asymptomatic transmission isn't a thing, or you just don't care if you kill the people you love
#2573 February 25, 2021, 06:22:54 AM
It would make you think, wouldn't it?
#2574 February 25, 2021, 01:41:03 PM Last Edit: February 25, 2021, 01:47:20 PM by Nazgûl
A wee counter argument piece to all of the existential dread being posted here recently, just to balance the discussion a bit.

www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2021/2/25/vaccine-passports-get-used-to
#2575 February 25, 2021, 02:41:33 PM Last Edit: February 25, 2021, 03:08:21 PM by astfgyl
Quote from: Nazgûl on February 25, 2021, 01:41:03 PM
A wee counter argument piece to all of the existential dread being posted here recently, just to balance the discussion a bit.

www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2021/2/25/vaccine-passports-get-used-to

Let's be fair, it could do with a bit of balancing out. In here anyway if not on the national media.

It seems like a fair enough argument for getting the thing until this: "Getting the vaccine is safe and there are no known long-term side effects"

Well of course they aren't known, it's spanking new stuff. I get the international travel to an extent as well but mark my words this won't stop there.

I'm going to wait until the trial stage ends in 2023 though, but I still think it should be available for anyone who wants it and all the best to anyone who does.

Here is something for anyone who doesn't want to be pressured into taking it https://www.nyatider.nu/council-of-europe-no-compulsory-vaccinations-and-no-discrimination-against-the-unvaccinated/

Luckily, Ireland subscribes to the council of Europe so should have a hard time locking up those who choose not to have it.
#2576 February 26, 2021, 02:49:51 PM
#2577 February 27, 2021, 02:53:43 PM
That's nice from Billy boy there fair play to him.

Our pals at the WEF are equally adept at seeing the bright side of things..

https://mobile.twitter.com/wef/status/1365614687514165248
#2578 February 27, 2021, 05:24:08 PM
astfgyl, Out of interest, what do you make of the protests in Dublin today?
#2579 February 27, 2021, 06:17:13 PM
I think it was self defeating once some knob let a firework off at the guards. It could have been a grand idea but the headlines now are of scumbags and the far right so it backfired.

Regular folks who are not happy with the lockdown should still get together and show their unhappiness with things without the bollix and they should have self policed by delivering that prick to the guards and shown that they don't tolerate violence in their name.

The government will be delighted with him all the same, whoever he was.
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