Coronavirus

[astfgyl]

In a way I wish I hadn't gotten sceptical about it all because I would certainly be a lot happier no doubt about it. The GBD to me is only a starting point to a wider discussion. It doesn't go into enough detail for my liking either, but the long video of their discussion with DeSantis was far more detailed. For what it's worth I don't think I know fuck all either beyond what I read or hear from other people who give more time to it than me and I prefer if they are more qualified than me as well

I didn't take it as a dig at me in the slightest either, all the things I say are there to be poked at and I thought your reply came across as perfectly reasonable. Sure what I do be saying goes against everything I see in the paper or on the telly and radio so I'd be more surprised if nobody thought it was a bit off.

[astfgyl]

Decent thread here that someone put together. Well sourced and plenty of info from the very basic to the very technical. It's a long one but a good read.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1361601758305390596.html

And again Florida gets a mention for being first to insist the CT Value be published with positive test results. Being fair, even the WHO have finally addressed the fact there is an issue with the values in January, many moons after the crazy conspiracy theorists pointed it out. But those guys are crazy.

[astfgyl]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/covid-19-new-variant-with-potentially-worrying-mutations-found-in-uk-1.4485832?mode=amp

Aww now isn't that a shame, a potentially worrying mutation may or might possibly evade the natural antibodies built from infection but thankfully another stamp on the vaccine passport (papers please!) should help to neutralise this potentially pesky possibly and more whatever strain.

The main thing is, thank god that there is an early warning system in place so these new lads can be sequenced and vaccinated against in advance before they ever get the chance to get you. You needn't worry about it, it's only another stamp on the old immunity passport that you scan absolutely everywhere you go. The only minor issue is that we might need to keep lockdowns on the cards until everyone has the update, but we are getting faster all the time with all the experience we have built up at vaccinating the entire population at a stroke.

Just tip on down to the local mass vaccination hub and we can get that QR code updated for you. Make sure to keep your mask on in the meantime and keep within the prescribed travel limit unless it's for essential reasons, a list of which is available on your passport app, or to visit your nearest vaccination centre. Please do not visit family or friends before your latest monthly update is confirmed.

It can take up to three weeks to reach a critical mass of the population each month, so please remember to adhere to the regulations and let's keep that curve flattened together! #NotATechnocraticDystopianNightmareVersionOfReality
#HoldFirm
#FlattenTheCurve

Also remember that when it was flatten the curve time last year, covid was thought to be around 10 times more deadly than it actually is, with wild projections based on mathematical models predicting far more of everything  (remember those nice videos from China of people collapsing in the streets) and the constant messages of fear and heroic deeds dominating the headlines worldwide, to inspire the response.

Imagine accepting the same response for the flu back in 2018. Really imagine it. For anyone unfamiliar with 2018, check out the number of deaths in Europe for that winter. Then look at what is happening in front of all of our eyes.

[Nazgûl]

Edit... nevermind, I actually couldn't be arsed engaging with this anymore on this forum.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Took you long enough to realise that... 

[Nazgûl]

You're not wrong.

[astfgyl]

Oh don't mind that old rant up there, that was just one of many possible scenarios. Sort of like how the great reset website says their claims that by 2030 we will own nothing and be happy were only only one possible scenario and not to worry too much about it.

Funnily enough I was offered a booking for the shot today in work and told at the same time it wasn't mandatory. So there's that at least.

Until the goalposts are moved once more.

Edit: ah here we go...

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/covid-vaccine-variants-third-shot-bill-gates/

Then there is this:

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2021/02/17/how-deadly-is-covid19/

All fully justified and above board all of this lark. I was silly to ever doubt the privately funded experts

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Just gonna stick together a few messages a Dublin nurse friend shared in our WhatsApp group a couple of days ago:

We lost a lovely colleague to Covid yesterday, a porter. He was bang on, a sound Scottish lad😢. There will be a guard of honour for him today.
Also, my manager who only turned 41 last week, was just discharged from hospital a few days ago. She spent 17 days in ICU on ventilator. Very glad she's finally back to her kids.

She's not quite recovered yet, it's going to be a long road. I think she was discharged as she is a nurse and will get support at home from her friends who are also nurses.
Let's say, if it was one of you, you would be still be in hospital or sent to rehab.
She has to relearn how to eat, hold things, walk....
as I said it will be a long road but at least she survived.

The Kent variant has been very aggressive but starting to see the end of the third wave. Admissions and positive cases in the hospital have plummeted in the past week. Let's hope for everyone's sake it stays that way but it's all very depressing for anyone.

[astfgyl]

That's rough. Hopefully they will get well. All those individual stories are indeed sad and indeed someday may be avoidable as more is learned about therapeutics to deal with the severe cases.

I didn't compile this one, but when I googled "flu stories", this was the top result:

https://www.familiesfightingflu.org/family-stories/

Heartbreaking stuff all round. Here's a taster of the first page

Our family stories put a face on the flu and illustrate why we're so driven in our mission. Flu is a serious disease and we are all at risk, regardless of age, gender, health status, ethnicity, or lifestyle. We share these emotional family stories to educate others about the importance of flu prevention and annual flu vaccination for everyone six months and older.

Here you'll learn about various stories such as a four-year-old girl who went to bed with mild flu-like symptoms, never to wake up; a six-month-old baby boy who died only 30 hours after showing his first symptoms of being sick; and a 33-year-old woman who survived flu, but was hospitalized for three months and suffered an amputation above the knee as a result of her illness.

I don't recall everyone showing such concern for these individual cases of the flu or indeed for all the old people it kills every year. Where were the hysterical news reports and headlines and lockdowns then in the face of this cruel and indiscriminate killer virus? Every individual death is a tragedy and I wouldn't wish it on anybody or their family.

But the world needs to get a grip of itself. Life is going to be permanently changed as a result of the approach taken to combat this seasonal and endemic virus and not for the better. And it is not going to be done democratically either.

Also no vaccine passports for flu, no opportunity for a great reset and no experimental mRNA therapy for a virus that mutates constantly and claims hundreds of thousands of victims a year even with the presence of a vaccine.

Covid 19 is real and certainly dangerous. The response to covid 19 is pure unadulterated bullshit. Follow the money, look who funds the lockdown pushers, think about who is profiting and what agenda it is suiting. It's easy to write off everything I say about it and I wouldn't blame anyone who did but definitely have at least one go at looking for conflicts of interest with those pushing the response to this. Also look into the swine flu scandal and look at the rogues gallery pushing that one and see how many of them are involved in the current situation.

[Blackout]

9 more weeks lads. I'm going utterly loopy with this lads

[astfgyl]

You're optimistic.

Just another 9 weeks and we'll get that curve flattened. #holdfirm

[Kurt Cocaine]

Oh astfygl........

Over 70% of people in Ireland think we should have a tavel vaccine certificate.....
We're doomed lad......

https://www.thejournal.ie/poll-should-ireland-introduce-vaccine-certificates-for-travel-5359240-Feb2021/

[astfgyl]

Oh astfygl........

Over 70% of people in Ireland think we should have a tavel vaccine certificate.....
We're doomed lad......

https://www.thejournal.ie/poll-should-ireland-introduce-vaccine-certificates-for-travel-5359240-Feb2021/

Guarantee that poll is a load of shite. The next poll will say 90 percent think we shouldn't go into a shop without one, even though we are grand to go now. Those passports are nothing to do with any virus.

[astfgyl]

Anyone wondering why the figures are dropping in hospitals? Is it because we are all behaving now? Maybe..

https://mobile.twitter.com/GregHughes2/status/1362412756775936006

Don't worry about the Twitter link, it's legit and the source is named and the audio is attached.

[Necr0rceN]

Another 9 weeks of fucking lockdown