Quote from: astfgyl on December 20, 2020, 07:59:07 PM
Hang on, Fauci says that the question most kids want answered is "does it hurt?"??

How come they aren't asking "why the fuck do we want this shit when the word from the get go is that we don't suffer from severe illness from it and have also been told we are not drivers of infection?"?

Quote"You know," he said, "the vaccine shot is in the arm. It's a pinch. But the pinch lasts really a short time, literally in seconds. And I'll bet you that after you get vaccinated, when vaccines become available for children or for all children, you're going to say, 'You know, it wasn't that bad at all.' I'll guarantee.

Shut the fuck up kids, it's for your own good we promise

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/kids-and-covid-19-why-they-are-not-getting-as-sick/
If a kid lives in a household with someone who is immunosuppressed, like say someone going through chemo, they could pass it on to them.

Vaccine is being rolled out. Whoopeeee, we're saved.
But wait, oh no! New super strain of Covid suddenly appears.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO TAKE THE VACCINE.!!


Just got confirmation from a test result that my girlfriend has it, so that likely includes me. Stuck inside now for the duration of our annual leave and won't see our family or friends. Just the icing on the cake of shite that is 2020.

They don't want you to see your family or friends.

Hopefully both of your symptoms (assuming you have it) are very mild.

The missus has totally lost her sense of taste and smell for 3 days now, which is freaking her out a bit. Aside from that and feeling wrecked tired the whole time, there's nothing else. No symptoms on my side, so we'll see... currently awaiting a test.

Wow that is interesting. I'd love to hear what he would have had to say about the current state of things

Quote from: Bigmac on December 21, 2020, 10:44:29 AM
Interesting to hear how unimpressed Kary Mullis was with Fauci.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtgUGxxzB_c&ab_channel=GordonRamsay

Quote from: Nazgûl on December 21, 2020, 11:54:19 AM
The missus has totally lost her sense of taste and smell for 3 days now, which is freaking her out a bit. Aside from that and feeling wrecked tired the whole time, there's nothing else. No symptoms on my side, so we'll see... currently awaiting a test.

What exactly can you do regarding shopping for essentials etc?

Quote from: lifeeternal on December 21, 2020, 12:38:14 AM
Quote from: astfgyl on December 20, 2020, 07:59:07 PM
Hang on, Fauci says that the question most kids want answered is "does it hurt?"??

How come they aren't asking "why the fuck do we want this shit when the word from the get go is that we don't suffer from severe illness from it and have also been told we are not drivers of infection?"?

Quote"You know," he said, "the vaccine shot is in the arm. It's a pinch. But the pinch lasts really a short time, literally in seconds. And I'll bet you that after you get vaccinated, when vaccines become available for children or for all children, you're going to say, 'You know, it wasn't that bad at all.' I'll guarantee.

Shut the fuck up kids, it's for your own good we promise

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/kids-and-covid-19-why-they-are-not-getting-as-sick/
If a kid lives in a household with someone who is immunosuppressed, like say someone going through chemo, they could pass it on to them.

Yeah but you're missing the point that the vaccine doesn't prevent infection, only reduces the chances of developing severe illness. Now I can see how that might work given my belief that lesser symptoms should equate to a lesser chance of passing it on, but that isn't what I have been fed all along.

#2394 December 21, 2020, 03:31:33 PM Last Edit: December 21, 2020, 03:33:26 PM by Nazgûl
Quote from: Blackout on December 21, 2020, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: Nazgûl on December 21, 2020, 11:54:19 AM
The missus has totally lost her sense of taste and smell for 3 days now, which is freaking her out a bit. Aside from that and feeling wrecked tired the whole time, there's nothing else. No symptoms on my side, so we'll see... currently awaiting a test.

What exactly can you do regarding shopping for essentials etc?

Before her results came back, we decided to prepare for the worst case so got all the shopping in yesterday for at least a week. Have our mate doing a booze shop for us later and some fuel for the fire ordered too for today.

So all set there, but the HSE person who called said we can't leave the house under any circumstances basically. I imagine they expect you to have food shops and the rest ordered online for delivery.

Lucky there's the pair of us and the dog in it. It would be absolutely shite to have to lock yourself  in alone and not see anyone this time of year, regardless if you buy into the whole Christmas lark or not.

Hope the two of you manage to squeeze some good cheer out of the week!

Here's a great article highlighting how the big pharma bathwater can be thrown out without chucking the baby of basic research with it:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/17/opinion/covid-vaccine-big-pharma.html

Also, as much of a genius in his narrow domain as Kary Mullis is (he's already been discussed in this thread incidentally), he's a full on fucking acid casualty nutbar outside of that.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 21, 2020, 04:07:30 PM
Hope the two of you manage to squeeze some good cheer out of the week!

Well in the hopes either of us don't start getting a bad dose of it in terms of symptoms, then I'm sure the hot whiskeys, tunes, good food and the wee stash of weed and magic mushrooms we have left over should do nicely.  :abbath:

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 21, 2020, 04:07:30 PM
Hope the two of you manage to squeeze some good cheer out of the week!

Here's a great article highlighting how the big pharma bathwater can be thrown out without chucking the baby of basic research with it:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/17/opinion/covid-vaccine-big-pharma.html

Also, as much of a genius in his narrow domain as Kary Mullis is (he's already been discussed in this thread incidentally), he's a full on fucking acid casualty nutbar outside of that.

Interesting bits on Mullis and PCR here for anyone interested: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/technology-history/man-who-photocopied-dna-and-also-saw-talking-fluorescent-raccoon

Very good article there. Great to see someone in the media not fawning over the pharma companies or painting them as our saviours. Somebody should fucking tattoo that on Ryan Tubridy's face.

Some info on vaccine safety here as well: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-12/slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf

Also, Nazgûl I wish you and the girlfriend all the best and hope ye will be among the vast vast majority who make a full and swift recovery (If indeed you test positive, but herself anyway). The oul stash of mushies and green should make a bit of a christmas out of it at least.

Quote from: Nazgûl on December 21, 2020, 10:52:46 AM
Just got confirmation from a test result that my girlfriend has it, so that likely includes me. Stuck inside now for the duration of our annual leave and won't see our family or friends. Just the icing on the cake of shite that is 2020.

Hopefully it'll go fairly smoothly for ye both, lad.

Quote from: Nazgûl on December 21, 2020, 03:31:33 PM
Quote from: Blackout on December 21, 2020, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: Nazgûl on December 21, 2020, 11:54:19 AM
The missus has totally lost her sense of taste and smell for 3 days now, which is freaking her out a bit. Aside from that and feeling wrecked tired the whole time, there's nothing else. No symptoms on my side, so we'll see... currently awaiting a test.

What exactly can you do regarding shopping for essentials etc?

Before her results came back, we decided to prepare for the worst case so got all the shopping in yesterday for at least a week. Have our mate doing a booze shop for us later and some fuel for the fire ordered too for today.

So all set there, but the HSE person who called said we can't leave the house under any circumstances basically. I imagine they expect you to have food shops and the rest ordered online for delivery.

Lucky there's the pair of us and the dog in it. It would be absolutely shite to have to lock yourself  in alone and not see anyone this time of year, regardless if you buy into the whole Christmas lark or not.


That's a shite thing to happen at Christmas dude hope you both get through it OK.