Quote from: astfgyl on November 29, 2020, 12:39:05 AM
https://twitter.com/eileeniorio/status/1332739440368906244

Watch this clip and then defend it.

Go on.

And now watch this:


https://youtu.be/mfo7nbX2NR8

And then ask yourself if you still believe any of this is about a virus, even if it truly was at any stage.

Then slap yourself repeatedly until you wake up.

That so called "toy show" was an abomination. It was basically an exercise in conditioning .
That cunt Tubridy looking earnestly into the camera telling us about how anxious and worried children are about the virus and then proceeding to bring up the fucking virus at every possible opportunity .

In the first, what I assume was meant to be comedy, section a young ladeen came out dressed as a garda, introduced as the "covid officer".
the last statement made by Tubridy at the end of this, what I assume was meant to be a skit, was something along the lines of, if you don't follow the guidelines "the gards will come and take you away for ever". Very reassuring.

This was followed by too many covid references to mention until the section linked above came on with the young girleen administering the vaccine to a teddy. Delightful.

This was again followed by too many covid references to mention which led up to cunthooks Tubridy saying to a young ladeen that " if you don't stay two metres away from me everyone will die." Wonderful.

Fuck you RTE, fuck you very much.

Lol, you'd think they were up to something, wouldn't you?


https://twitter.com/coulmont/status/1334100923992453121

Nifty day-by-day animation of daily death count in France covering 2001 - 2020 (so far). The huge peak in August 2003 was from the devastating European heatwave that year. In other words, the count you're seeing is totally independent of cause of death.

#2299 December 02, 2020, 04:44:30 PM Last Edit: December 02, 2020, 04:49:08 PM by astfgyl
I can't watch that on the shitty laptop I'm on here. It won't play video at all. Is there much in this year vs others?

Actually of course there will be a spike for the epidemic I mean since the summer how's it looking?

Quote from: astfgyl on December 02, 2020, 04:44:30 PM
I can't watch that on the shitty laptop I'm on here. It won't play video at all. Is there much in this year vs others?

Actually of course there will be a spike for the epidemic I mean since the summer how's it looking?

Since the summer it's starting to rise again over the normal threshold again. Not as bad as March and April but on an upward curve.

So England rolling out vaccinations next week. Lads gigs might actually be a thing again. Fucking GIGS

Quote from: astfgyl on December 02, 2020, 04:44:30 PM
Is there much in this year vs others?

Actually of course there will be a spike for the epidemic I mean since the summer how's it looking?

Since beginning of November, it's almost 1000 per day above any of the previous years, with daily death rates more similar to January in the very worst flu year (2016). It makes for a very clear margin. Actually, I can just give you a screen shot of the final frame:

I'm really surprised at that figure. I would have expected it to be somewhere around half of that or even less, but not the zero of the no brigade either. Those lockdowns really cause even more collateral damage than even I suspected!

Quote from: astfgyl on December 02, 2020, 07:12:09 PM
I'm really surprised at that figure. I would have expected it to be somewhere around half of that or even less, but not the zero of the no brigade either. Those lockdowns really cause even more collateral damage than I suspected!

Second lockdown started on 30th October here...

From viewing that video once it looked like 2019 had a well above average deaths if not highest most months and the previous few years had generally increasing deaths most of the year particularly in winter. I wonder why there's been a general increase in deaths the last 5 ish years? My first thought it due to finally reaping the rewards of all the austerity measures the since the recession.

It's a bit confusing how 2019 is animated, since it fills in the shading at the same time on that rotation, but it doesn't go significantly above any particular previous year. You can see this if you pause and have a good look at the curves before the end of 2018. Generally though, mortality rate will increase slightly over time as a function of population increase. You can't compare raw death rates from 2020 to those from 1970, for example.

Yeah it all gets a bit confusing and jumbled after a few spins, could maybe have used a few different colours. Still though, interesting to see it all laid out that way

Quote from: Ollkiller on December 02, 2020, 05:11:33 PM

So England rolling out vaccinations next week. Lads gigs might actually be a thing again. Fucking GIGS
I'm actually wondering if Brexit is going to have a bigger effect on gigs than the virus, in the long term at least

I could be wrong, but I always thought Irish dates were added on nearly as an extra if a band was booking a more lucrative British tour. And it seems like there'll be much more hoops to jump through to try and organise that now will a rake of bands just not bother playing there?

#2308 December 03, 2020, 06:53:53 PM Last Edit: December 03, 2020, 09:58:12 PM by astfgyl
Quote from: Trev on December 03, 2020, 10:27:16 AM
Yeah it all gets a bit confusing and jumbled after a few spins, could maybe have used a few different colours. Still though, interesting to see it all laid out that way

Quote from: Ollkiller on December 02, 2020, 05:11:33 PM

So England rolling out vaccinations next week. Lads gigs might actually be a thing again. Fucking GIGS
I'm actually wondering if Brexit is going to have a bigger effect on gigs than the virus, in the long term at least

I could be wrong, but I always thought Irish dates were added on nearly as an extra if a band was booking a more lucrative British tour. And it seems like there'll be much more hoops to jump through to try and organise that now will a rake of bands just not bother playing there?

Could be an unexpected boon for the local/national scene...? Could even be the thing that gets both the players and punters to really get the finger out. That's not to say a lot aren't giving it their best but if the mid-size bands aren't arsed making it over, a lot of the punters will surely still want to get the live music fix

Edit, for the obligatory anti-stuff bit:

https://twitter.com/HowardSteen4/status/1334546610701934593/photo/1

Ok here's a change of tack for me, and a question I had in mind a bit..

If the PCR testing is picking up dead fragments of virus or giving false positives, how do those who test positive then test negative 2 weeks later? Wouldn't the same dead fragments of previous infection still be present and give the same positive result?

Only ways I can think around that is that test picks up other infections which then clear, or all asymptomatic are actively infected at time of test, or test is run at lower CT the second time around.

Then there was the HPSC document which said that it's likely to be dead fragments at higher CT values, possibly going back months but that brings me back to the first question of how do they test negative 2 weeks later? They can't all be getting found in the last 2 weeks before the last fragments of RNA are cleared out. So what gives?