Coronavirus

[astfgyl]

I dunno what he is looking for I was just wondering if that statement was true or not? I have seen a lot of things saying that there is no pure isolate of the virus anywhere and Reiner Fuellmich is using that bit of info as a cornerstone of his legal argument. So as someone a lot better versed than myself, do you reckon there is anything in that?

I have another one I asked a bit back but it got drowned out and it was about this: fuck I'll have to go back for the link, but what does non-specific viral interference mean when relating to a multiplex assay? A bit vague there to be fair, I'll dig out the link but it's a good few pages back

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I'm not an expert in virology, at all, but I have confidence in the tens of thousands of researchers in the world who are, some of whom I work with. What did the virologist on our team - whose principal job is to generate and sequence the viruses we use in our research - say about this covid virus? That we should have been running PCR tests in our lab when they were most needed, not that the whole thing was bullshit. So, I trust her knowledge and faith, and that of the collected virology community, who have advanced light years in the last couple of decades.

I'm sure there are virologists who have made videos explaining how the sequencing is actually done, if you do a simple YouTube search: how was sars-cov-2 sequenced?

[astfgyl]

Tbh, I will look it up but I expect a lot of it to fly over my head. Then I'd be diving into who funds their research and what grants they have had in the past and from whom. I guess that is a lot of the problem for me, that I have no faith in the salesmen on the NPHET, none in the government and also none in the pharma companies who have a bit of previous to say the least. I feel with these lads that I am stuck taking the word of known liars. I naturally go the other way then, down the road of deep suspicion of the motives. It seems to me that all of these vaccine companies coming up with the goods at the same time is a desperate rush to get the things out to everyone before any more gets known about it and the fear dissipates or the lockdown justification wears any thinner. And I could accept all that too if only I could be left alone with all the other folks who don't want vaccinating. The idea of it being mandated even by proxy is anathema to me but if it was voluntary with no social consequences I'd probably be all for it. Not making the vaccine mandatory would kill 90% of the conspiracy arguments so lets hope that is the case. Like I don't get the flu jab but it doesn't affect my ability to go to work or go to gigs or anything, why not keep it that way as flu fucks up old folks bad as well but the choice is still a thing and I should decide what shit I put in my own body. I do put lots of bad shit in there by choice as well btw

Bit of a tangent there but just explaining why I give so much time not believing in the apparent virtue of it all. Still trying to be careful where I get the info and try to pick the brains of anyone who might have more of an idea than myself. Take the PCR for example, the wording around it being false positive wasn't exactly the way to look at it, and saying it wasn't fit for purpose wasn't exactly it either, but it took me a good while to get around to the perspective I have on it now which is that it can be made more or less sensitive and the results are open to interpretation rather than being any definite yes you have it or no you don't have it. The more I ended up reading the more I got the idea that there is nothing inherently wrong with it for many applications. Can't find that thing about the multiplex assays either but it's definitely in this thread somewhere and I have two ideas as to the meaning of what it says but dunno which it is. It's around non-specific viral interference anyway and surely it's in my browser history somewhere

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Presume that no one here has the knowledge to answer a question about multiplex assay viral interference. I just know someone who's talking shit when I see one (meaning that Doc Cowan, btw). Aithníonn cíaróg cíaróg eile and all that 

Macron just delivered an update on measures, nothing surprising, but the official word is that vaccinations - the first available expected end of December - will not be made obligatory. Remains to be seen if the government holding its hand back will be merely a formality if airlines, event organizers, etc., are given green light to demand proof of vaccination for service access.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

And an article on the Oxford vaccine (by one of its researchers):
https://theconversation.com/why-the-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-is-now-a-global-game-changer-150660

[Giggles]

Like I don't get the flu jab but it doesn't affect my ability to go to work or go to gigs or anything, why not keep it that way as flu fucks up old folks bad as well but the choice is still a thing and I should decide what shit I put in my own body.

This. And what about people who've already had the virus, are they being expected to get it too?

[astfgyl]

Presume that no one here has the knowledge to answer a question about multiplex assay viral interference. I just know someone who's talking shit when I see one (meaning that Doc Cowan, btw). Aithníonn cíaróg cíaróg eile and all that 

Macron just delivered an update on measures, nothing surprising, but the official word is that vaccinations - the first available expected end of December - will not be made obligatory. Remains to be seen if the government holding its hand back will be merely a formality if airlines, event organizers, etc., are given green light to demand proof of vaccination for service access.

Being fair, you were the only person I thought might be able to explain it to me in any fashion. Look if this shit isn't mandated (including by proxy) I welcome it with open arms. If it involves me having to scan some QR code on the phone I don't even own to get a loaf of bread or go for a pint, I'm fully against it. It's really as simple as that for me around the vaccines. I am pro-choice. If it isn't mandated then I'd go so far as to say fair play to the producers and the money that will be made (I read the article so I have to leave the Oxford lads out of this).

I've thought of an argument against the airlines etc and the vaccine pass anyway. They maintained from very early and very publicly that they could provide a fully safe environment for travel in the absence of any vaccine so that can be the rock they perish on and there will surely be some company willing to exploit the loophole of the folks who don't want it... maybe... hopefully

Like I don't get the flu jab but it doesn't affect my ability to go to work or go to gigs or anything, why not keep it that way as flu fucks up old folks bad as well but the choice is still a thing and I should decide what shit I put in my own body.

This. And what about people who've already had the virus, are they being expected to get it too?

Indeed, there is very little evidence of any vaccine being in any way more effective than previous infection and the immunity it confers. When I was swabbed, I was hoping it would be positive for this very reason and I actually had mild symptoms at the time.

[astfgyl]

Remember; this fella will make a fortune from the vaccines: https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1124/1180132-covid19-coronavirus-ireland/

I dare anyone to justify this absolutely shameless scaremongering and to believe a word he ever says again after reading this. This is why we are where we are, because of the likes of this. Now have a serious think about the fact that he is part of the NPHET, don't just let the thoughts pass too easy or anything.

Edit: Here, most of you won't click the link so I'll quote the highlights:

They should bring their own dinnerware
Have a single person do all the serving to keep numbers down in the kitchen
Stagger people sitting around the table to avoid people sitting opposite each other
Have good ventilation
Do not to spend too long in each other's company
"You can't be having ten hours in a stuffy room together playing family games," Prof O'Neill said.

Edit: hang on I forgot this beaut: Speaking on RTÉ's Today with Claire Byrne, Prof O'Neill said that children should "hug their grandparents briefly outdoors, while wearing a mask".

Now lads, apart from one particular user I have in my mind, who would do this to themselves? I can't think of anything as demeaning as going along with the likes of this.

Really let this one sink in when even the WHO has published articles saying it's about the same level as flu we are dealing with. Every time I try to think that this is all above board I see a bit more of this absolute madness and where the fuck are the media calling it out? yeah

Really read the article though, don't just take my quotes as the full extent of the horror. Take into account that this madness of the highest order is what is acceptable for publishing on the website of our national broadcaster. The same absolute shitehawks who were hugging each other up in RTE.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I don't know if it's nationwide (yet), but certainly in some regions of Spain they're declaring 6 max to a house for Christmas. In France, they really only had recommendations, and I was only half listening to that lukewarm tool's speech, but I think maybe something along the lines of staggering seatings was suggested, and airing once an hour, but as long as it's just recommendations, grand. Seems that in Spain it's going beyond just that...some of the resident spic-micks can confirm.

[astfgyl]

it's like a spoof but it's actually real. wow. And spic-micks lol fuck sake

I would love to see a video of someone actually following this "advice" in their houses. (apart from the lad I mentioned)

Edit: the more I read the more preposterous it gets:

"Stick grandpa by the window and have a good breeze blowing through, and this will really decrease the risk, so it is possible to have a Christmas together," Prof O'Neill said.

Only that the wife would be angry I'd be screaming or howling like a wolf out the front door

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Meant as a term of endearment; sure my young fella is a veritable chic spic-mick! 

[astfgyl]

Most of what is wrong with the modern world can be summed up by the idea of anyone thinking that term is anything other than amusing

[Giggles]

Spic Mick never heard that one before 

Would yer granda not be prone to catching a cold if he's sat beside a draughty window? And isn't covid an airbourne virus? And doesn't heat move from warm areas to cold areas, meaning that everybody's breath could potentially flow across our dear grandpa?
Oh wait nevermind I forgot we're eating dinner with the masks on. Be grand sure.

Prof O'Neill acknowledged that there "are scare stories out there about vaccines", but said "when all the health agencies in the world are saying to use this vaccine, and provided the regulators are happy, and they get the seal of approval then everyone should line up and get it".

He acknowledges the scare stories, but does he acknowledge the stone cold FACT that hundreds of kids got permanent brain damage from the Pandemrix vaccine? Were the regulators happy back then too?

[astfgyl]

The regulators were delighted with their 30 pieces of silver as always

Here is a short video about our pal Luke O' Neill:

https://youtu.be/9IcwLxCo2pM

Listen to this fucking prick

[Kurt Cocaine]

The regulators were delighted with their 30 pieces of silver as always

Here is a short video about our pal Luke O' Neill:

https://youtu.be/9IcwLxCo2pM

Listen to this fucking prick

He has the dead eyes of a corporate funded shark.
He'll get more than a flogging if I gets me ands on him. The scaremongering shitstain.