No doubt you are a hero in these trying times.
But, may I ask, how many people of the 4.5 million in this country have you guys treated?

Cancer is horrific. Car crashes are horrific. The Democrats are horrific. The new Six Feet Under is horrific.....
Does the world stop for any of those..?


Nope......

Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on November 24, 2020, 11:46:41 AM
Cancer is horrific. Car crashes are horrific. The Democrats are horrific. The new Six Feet Under is horrific.....
Does the world stop for any of those..?


Nope......

How in the name of fuck is any of those examples relevant to a respiratory disease.

I'll take a vaccine when if and when I feel it is safe to do so. Not by some shill government(s) tell me that I have to take it.
Quickest vaccine production in history? Pharma companies coming up with the goods a couple of weeks apart? Nah thanks.....

You can't vaccinate against any of those, but you can for covid

McLove and the Black Shepherd are working on one for SFU....  :laugh:

I will contribute funding for that one directly

Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on November 24, 2020, 11:58:01 AM
Quickest vaccine production in history?

I mean, rationally speaking, it would have been surprising if it had been anything other than the quickest vaccine production in history. It was also:
- quickest isolation and reconstruction of a novel virus in history
- fastest global sharing of data on a novel virus in history
- quickest response to make all research on the subject fully open access both within and without of the research community in history
- worked on simultaneously by more researchers than any other viral question in history
...and so on and so forth.

Amazing! Still won't be taking it......

I'm not trying to get you to take it, that's a whole other question - of very little importance to me - to that of whether there is anything suspect about it being the fastest developed vaccine in history. There isn't. It's the most logical outcome given the conditions.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 24, 2020, 12:41:42 PM
I'm not trying to get you to take it, that's a whole other question - of very little importance to me - to that of whether there is anything suspect about it being the fastest developed vaccine in history. There isn't. It's the most logical outcome given the conditions.
Ah I know man and bravo to all those who worked tirelessly on this over the last 9 months.
It is a godsend for those who need/want it I have to admit.
Anything that speeds up getting back to pints and all that.  :abbath:

I thought ye were taking about the TV show six feet under ffs

 :laugh:

Never even seen it....

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 24, 2020, 12:33:38 PM
- quickest isolation and reconstruction of a novel virus in history

https://drtomcowan.com/only-poisoned-monkey-kidney-cells-grew-the-virus/

QuoteFirst, in the section titled "Whole Genome Sequencing," we find that rather than having isolated the virus and sequencing the genome from end to end, that the CDC "designed 37 pairs of nested PCRs spanning the genome on the basis of the coronavirus reference sequence (GenBank accession no. NC045512)."

To me, this computer-generation step constitutes scientific fraud.  Here is an equivalency: A group of researchers claim to have found a unicorn because they found a piece of a hoof, a hair from a tail, and a snippet of a horn. They then add that information into a computer and program it to re-create the unicorn, and they then claim this computer re-creation is the real unicorn. Of course, they had never actually seen a unicorn so could not possibly have examined its genetic makeup to compare their samples with the actual unicorn's hair, hooves and horn.

Is this true?

So, this guy is saying that the CDC created a virus, but then later also says that the virus they supposedly created was incapable (by his interpretation) of infecting human cells...? If the CDC were going to just make shit up, wouldn't they make up shit that behaved as they wanted?

Or is it just that this guy doesn't actually understand the science he's reading? Why not look up someone explaining how it was sequenced rather than someone looking for conspiracy.