Coronavirus

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

It gets sent to the 5G people so that they can plan ahead how they're going to rewrite it once you update your phone.

[Kurt Cocaine]

5G

You've given me an idea for tonight 

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

5G

You've given me an idea for tonight 

Rewrite your psychic DNA a little more. Who knows, maybe this time things will fall back into some semblance of order 

[Kurt Cocaine]

Covid-19 is supposed to be a disease, not the results of a PCR test.

PCR tests cannot be used to diagnose anything.

PCR tests have only ever been used to support a clinical diagnosis.

Labelling someone as a case who does not have the disease is 'crazy'.

Coronaviruses have been with humans since the beginning of human life so their presence is normal

A positive PCR does not mean that you are infected

The way we are diagnosing Covid-19 is at odds with everything taught in medical school

It's a criminal exaggeration to claim positive test results are disease cases

John Iaonnides' (the world's leading epidemiologist) paper was published by the WHO three weeks ago.It says that this disease is no more deadly than the seasonal flu. For people under 70 it is less deadly than the seasonal flu. Five out of ten thousand people infected with the actual disease may die of it.

"This is so little that there is no reason to do anything. "

"Not only is the lockdown nonsense, everything else is nonsense"

This is what the published science implies.

The pandemic has come to an end. It does not exist in Europe or America.

Anyone who says the measures are being undertaken for scientific reasons is lying.

We don't need any new reality, we need to go back to the old reality.

So many people have now been neglected by the health care system because of this - "it's inhuman"

Mask wearing is a cruelty to children and causes harm to people who need fresh air due to their condition.

It has never been shown that pre-symptomatic people will give the disease to others.

Regarding vaccines:

Scientific knowledge about immunity and vaccination is fuzzy. The role of antibodies and other immune mechanisms is not fully understood.

80-90% of people who came into contact with tis virus did not get ill - they have sufficient immunity, or background immunity

Probably due to lymphocytes, not antibodies

A string of studies now confirm this

Astra Zeneka is developing a gene based vaccine, already sold to Germany - it's "damned dangerous" The method may cause the white blood cells to attack healthy body cells. The severe side effects in the trials so far can be attributed to this over exuberant auto-immune response.

Reawakening the killer lymphocytes with the vaccine means exposure to the real virus may cause an excessive response
(The is what lead to the abandonment of the SARS vaccine in 2007, where every single one of the animals tested died on re-exposure to coronavirus)

The vaccine cannot be shown to be saving lives as the numbers of deaths are so low now that it is statistically not possible. If 5 out of 10,000 are dying, how are you going to pick up the signal of success? You can't - you will never reach statistical significance.
(Propaganda, of course, will not worry about that kind of detail)

[Kurt Cocaine]

5G

You've given me an idea for tonight 

Rewrite your psychic DNA a little more. Who knows, maybe this time things will fall back into some semblance of order 

Don't choke on those chocolate covered sweetcorns lad.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Ah, poop! It's a euphemism for poop! There was me wondering what relevance these things had here:

[astfgyl]

Astfygl you need to get back on the horse here. I'm reading not even 2k deaths in Ireland since the start of this craic. 93% underlying conditions. 95% over the age of 80. Is this a massive pisstake or what's going on? We'll be a year into this soon and nobody seems to have any idea wtf is actually going on or where we are headed. I need a proper cynical breakdown of the situation please 

All those figures hold up. It's enough to make me believe that if this was ever about a virus it certainly isn't any more. Not certain of the punchline but I think it's more a series of jokes within jokes than an actual grand masterplan. It has been done before though, the swine flu pandemic was entirely made up and composed of empty hype too, but the ubiquity of social media wasn't there to get everyone on board as it is nowadays. Ireland's excess deaths for the year are well within the normal range of fluctuation even allowing for the large spike in April, as all months since have been below the 5 year average. Stats on most other causes of death are also down, which gives rise to the notion that death has been re-branded in a lot of the cases here. The wanton destruction of the economy and fracturing of society is so obvious now that it can't have gone unnoticed or be purely down to incompetence. What are the conditions on the money that will be borrowed to finance this fistfuck to the nation? I don't know but I bet they will be eye watering. Just not for any of those inflicting it upon us such as politicians, scientists and civil servants. I've been stepping back from this a bit lately as I want to let other folks in the thread have a chance, but every time I hear of rising cases or deaths and I look into it, it doesn't hold up at all as they are defined by the PCR and not clinical symptoms which we have been over and over here already, so I won't get back into that. Really looking forward to the final death tallies for the year so this can be seen for what it is one way or the other. Have to give it til next May for the 12 month comparison though so it will be a bit yet.

So as with anything, follow the money and we start to understand what is going on a bit more. Small example being our NPHET member Luke O Neill. Keeps saying we can't escape this without a vaccine, and has funding from Pfizer, Glaxo and Wellcome Trust. Just so happens he will make a fortune if any vaccine comes through, but that definitely has no bearing on the nature of his advice to government, definitely not. He is but one example and I have already seen many other examples of NPHET members with conflicts of interest around the advice they are giving.

And here is only one tiny nation out of them all. 5 million people out of nearly 8 billion potential vaccine customers. That is before we get near the gravy train that is laid on for the tech companies, Google, Amazon, Netflix, Various Internet providers worldwide, Smartphone manufacturers, Testing labs worldwide, PPE manufacturers, Owners of Health Passport apps and fuck the list goes on and on and on, right down to the Youtube fear mongers who get their precious clicks frightening the shite out of everyone, the TV channels and print media taking the HSE money to run the ads every day, same with radio. It even trickles down to the likes of the perspex companies and all of the other thousands of little helpers who we are all in it together with at this time of extreme world danger.

All for a virus that has a 99.9% estimated survival rate. The money the money, but not for us plebs unfortunately.

I'll have a look at Sweden now and check how their figures (which the media, who are of course fully impartial) hold up. Back in a bit.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Ah, poop! It's a euphemism for poop! There was me wondering what relevance these things had here:

Man, I want a pack of those babies now. Ultimate munch material right there boyo. 

[Giggles]

Contact tracing got in touch with me today and we talked about testing. After asking her several times "who analyses my test swab, where does the sample get sent to? Who processes it?"  she replied with her not so great english "your GP".

Didn't know my GP had a lab handy in his office. Must be one of them new fold away jobbys.

So... anybody on here know where they get sent? Surely somebody is getting paid to carry out these tests?

[Kurt Cocaine]

Switch your phone off for a couple of days lad.

[Mower Liberation Front]

So... anybody on here know where they get sent? Surely somebody is getting paid to carry out these tests?

This country being what it is, probably Denis O'Brien.

[astfgyl]

Lol Denis O Brien. It's probably closer to the truth than we think! I've had my DNA harvested anyway. Sold my soul to go back to work. What a shitty price for my soul considering that work is the place I go to exchange the hours of my life for the cash I've already spent.

Anyway, was reading this and hoping someone (maybe Chris) could help explain this one for me. It seems to say the test picks up all sorts of stuff and it is being put about as evidence of such. My alternate take on that is that as it states it is a multiplex test, it is designed to pick up those other infections and will specify which are present but is that the case or am I misunderstanding the meaning of multiplex here? The other idea bouncing around my head is that the "non-specific interference" mentioned on the datasheet is what it seems to be saying and the results will be skewed by presence of any of the mentioned pathogens. Just looking for a bit of clarity and maybe a clue as to why the flu has disappeared.

Here's the source anyway for anyone who might have something to add:

https://www.creative-diagnostics.com/pdf/CD019RT.pdf

[astfgyl]

Here is a nice study about the efficacy of non-pharmaceutical interventions; the results of which even I was surprised by:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2029717

Published in the New England Journal of Medicine so definitely those tinfoil facemask wearing cunts as usual.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Lad, fuck off! It's Friday night... 

[astfgyl]

Lad, fuck off! It's Friday night... 

I know. I'm gone to shit