The biggest shafting the world has ever seen sums it up about right. There should be something like the Nuremberg trials to deal with the orchestrators of this travesty. Of course it is now obvious why locking down was the preferred method of dealing with this (in spite of the WHO stating as recently as 2019 that locking down, quarantining the healthy and track and trace were definitely not the way to do things) and it was to usher in all this shite which otherwise would have had no support but is now being begged for. I'm not anti vax either but I am anti forced vax in the strongest way possible and this is what we are getting.

And all made possible by that little spy in our pockets, the smartphone. Roll on rolling pandemics and vaccines to solve them for ever more. And anyone who thinks I'm being paranoid will find out for themselves soon enough. So go along with it, get the health pass, get the tests, get the vaccine and be happy with it but if anyone is honest with themselves they will still know this outcome is a fucking fix for money and social control and erosion of personal freedoms and good luck to anyone who is able to put that to the back of their mind. The appetite for this had to be created by taking everything away that we enjoy and that makes life worth living so that we will accept this fucking bullshit as a compromise to get some of it back in a way.

The next step is for the SMEs to go to the wall, the mortgages to go into arrears and the vultures are waiting to pick the bones of society and feed the scraps back into massive faceless corporations so that everything will be owned by less than 1% of the population worldwide and we can all be happy little robots with no cash and control of all our income handed to the cloud while we watch whatever the algorithm serves us up to keep us from thinking about the awful reality in which we now live. Healthcare? That's all privatised now. Water? Privatised. Fresh air? Privatised. Your innermost thoughts and feelings? They are now property of The Company. Have a nice life!!

#2161 November 11, 2020, 08:48:07 PM Last Edit: November 11, 2020, 08:53:06 PM by Airneanach
I have to say, Ticketmaster's move there surprised me. I didn't think it would actually happen.

Even in these unprecedented times it will be viewed by many as too much of an overstep. There's also the argument that if the vaccine is that widely available eventually, then you should immunize yourself if you're worried about getting it at a gig.

With lockdown a lot of this stuff was seen as changing your lifestyle/stop being so bloody selfish so that you don't become a carrier. Once the vaccine becomes easily obtainable by choice, surely that responsibility shifts firmly to whoever's sufficiently worried to get the fucking shot, nah?

Oh well. My least favourite kind of gigs, anyway. Not a lot of dinosaurs left that I want to see. Maybe it'll cause a bit of a trickle to local and smaller gigs?

It won't last for long, either. My own feeling on this story in particular aren't really that drastic or paranoia fuelled, to be honest. Big ticket business screens for virus in the immediate months after a global pandemic so they can get back to scamming millions quicker. It's just them being shrewd as fuck so they can get back to normal ASAP. A lot will follow suit, I suspect.


I would dearly love you to be right there about it going away like that. My brother said the same to me when I was frying his head about similar things a couple of months ago. As you say, I wouldn't be heading to those gigs anyway so fair enough but I see this trickling down to the QR code being scanned on the way into basically anywhere and the real new normal we are being fed will be the likes of this. I honestly and truly hope I am wrong but I don't see it. These massive corporations making the coin from the vaccines and control apps won't be willing to let it go so easily and will lobby like fuck to ensure it is indeed the new normal and life as we knew it is dead. Very depressing stuff.

https://www.lobbying.ie/return/59469/q4pr

^^ There will be an awful lot more of the likes of this going on as we speak, I reckon. This one is fairly innocuous looking on the face of it but shows who is lobbying for what.


He was on RTE a while back peddling the same. He seems like a complete extremist and there's a touch of the attention seeker to him.

Big Brother much...?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40080437.html

Our 'government' needs taking out...  :abbath:

Fair amount of high horse cringe on a related post on the Irish Metal Heads fb page at the moment. Views like "I'm getting vaxxed asap cos I actually give a shit about people" and anybody who doesn't get vaxxed is stupid and selfish and inconsiderate and you have absolutely no reason not to yada yada yada.

Fucking hell like, take the vaccine if you want, but don't fucking belittle or scaremonger others into also doing so just cos you're a model law abiding citizen and you think "it's the right thing to do".

Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on November 12, 2020, 08:11:51 AM
Big Brother much...?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40080437.html

Our 'government' needs taking out...  :abbath:

It's all publicly available stuff though, not really much of a Big Brother vibe, no more than, say, keeping an account of what's being said in the papers.

#2168 November 12, 2020, 10:06:11 AM Last Edit: November 12, 2020, 10:10:02 AM by Nazgûl
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on November 12, 2020, 08:11:51 AM
Big Brother much...?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40080437.html

Our 'government' needs taking out...  :abbath:

They've been doing this for a long time. The records of who they keep an eye on and for what reason is obtainable by anybody through the Freedom of Information act, I just think most people don't know or bother with putting in a request to see it.

Its not surprising really. They're using publicly available information to see who they're popular and unpopular with. It's slimy, but it's above board and unsurprising as I mentioned.

That's it. It's slimy, but if loads of ordinary joes are practically stalking the Twitters of these people on a daily basis, it shouldn't come as a shock that the guys who run the country might have a nose at it.

Next you'll be telling me they read what these journalists write.

1984!

Quote from: Giggles on November 12, 2020, 10:01:02 AM
Fair amount of cringe on the Irish Metal Heads fb page

Trimmed that down for you there!


Astfygl you need to get back on the horse here. I'm reading not even 2k deaths in Ireland since the start of this craic. 93% underlying conditions. 95% over the age of 80. Is this a massive pisstake or what's going on? We'll be a year into this soon and nobody seems to have any idea wtf is actually going on or where we are headed. I need a proper cynical breakdown of the situation please  :abbath: :abbath:

Was just reading that all figures, including hospitalizations and intensive care numbers, are increasing steeply in Sweden.

What happens to our dna after we get tested? The HSE swabs a sample, where does that information go? Who processes it? A mate of mine got tested today, and asked these questions to yer wan who swabbed him. She shrugged her shoulders and said she hadn't a clue