Coronavirus

[astfgyl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb_QFImg9yI

Fucking nonsense.

He's true to his word anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPGb2Bc4hw

Well fair fucks to him. Seriously. I had a vision of him doing fuck all but I was emphatically proved wrong.

Has anyone seen the videos from Naples last night where the protesters refused to cause violence against the police and the police ended up breaking the line and marching with them?

Would love to see it happen here.

[Pedrito]

As nauseating as Leo Varadkar's speeches are I think this lad might just pip him for Winston Churchill-esque waffle.

[Nazgûl]

"God is watching yous all, and you're fucking around with your eternal destination." 

[astfgyl]

"God is watching yous all, and you're fucking around your eternal destination." 

I think he took that quote from one of the Terminator flicks. Think Schwarzenegger might have said it in T2

[Nazgûl]

"God is watching yous all, and you're fucking around your eternal destination." 

I think he took that quote from one of the Terminator flicks. Think Schwarzenegger might have said it in T2

No man, this was me quoting that lad roaring at guards in the video...which was totally his own, and sounds mental.

[astfgyl]

Ah yeah, I copped that. The oul text is a poor means of expression.

Imagine the conversations in the Paddywagons after that though! Surely at least half of them are considering his points.

Maybe.

[Pedrito]

All them lot were considering was that hefty overtime pay..a new flatscreen or nespresso machine for the donut in the morning.

[Nazgûl]

Ah yeah, I copped that. The oul text is a poor means of expression.

Ah, you were taking the piss outta Leo...I see now 

[astfgyl]

Ah yeah, I copped that. The oul text is a poor means of expression.

Ah, you were taking the piss outta Leo...I see now 

It wasn't my best work to be fair

[astfgyl]

Not my own, came across it earlier.

Q. If science developed a vaccine that was 99.8% effective in killing covid, would you be in favour of a return to normal?

A. Your wish is granted - it's called the human immune system and it's 99.8% effective in killing covid.

The only thing is that much like the flu vaccine it doesn't work so well in the over 70's
But... If enough of the younger group were to take it, it would offer protection to those on whom the treatment is less effective in much the same way those at low risk are being advised to take the flu vaccine this year.

[Caomhaoin]

All them lot were considering was that hefty overtime pay..a new flatscreen or nespresso machine for the donut in the morning.

Tangent here but I never use the nespresso machine anymore since I realised how good coffee tastes out of those Italian stainless steel cafetieres. No contest, and those capsules are highway robbery anyway.

[Trev]

Not my own, came across it earlier.

Q. If science developed a vaccine that was 99.8% effective in killing covid, would you be in favour of a return to normal?

A. Your wish is granted - it's called the human immune system and it's 99.8% effective in killing covid.

The only thing is that much like the flu vaccine it doesn't work so well in the over 70's
But... If enough of the younger group were to take it, it would offer protection to those on whom the treatment is less effective in much the same way those at low risk are being advised to take the flu vaccine this year.

Would the vaccine also stop all the secondary complications too, that the immune system seems to have a problem sorting out?

[astfgyl]

Hopefully so, but that is certainly unknown as of yet. The hope would be I suppose that those secondary complications would be the exception rather than the rule. You were fairly knocked for six after it, have you recovered fully at this stage or is there a lingering malaise? I only have yourself to ask, as the few others I know who tested positive were asymptomatic so they of course can't answer that.

My fear for the vaccines currently on the cards is that they will be rushed out without proper due process. I'm not against the idea of vaccinations at all, but the way it seems to be going for this one worries me. I was reading this article in the BMJ this morning and it left me rather confused about a lot of it. Worth a read for those both for and against the idea: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037.

Edit: I have to say also that I think when governments say things like "there is no way out of this without a vaccine" that they mean that as much for themselves as the general population. Imagine the level of disbelief and anger if they were to come out now and say they might have gotten a bit too excited by the initial media coverage. In that respect, I hope one comes along as much as anybody and is readily available for those who feel at high risk or who want to take it even if not in the high risk group. I would be strongly opposed to it being mandatory though.

[Caomhaoin]

The bird works for a French pharmaceutical crowd and her prediction is that it will be the end of next year at the very earliest that there will be a viable vaccine, and beyond that before you have the 50-70% of the population either having been infected or vaccinated to provide the herd protection.

Fucking depressing to think this is going to go on for another 18 months if not longer.

[Trev]

Hopefully so, but that is certainly unknown as of yet. The hope would be I suppose that those secondary complications would be the exception rather than the rule. You were fairly knocked for six after it, have you recovered fully at this stage or is there a lingering malaise? I only have yourself to ask, as the few others I know who tested positive were asymptomatic so they of course can't answer that.

Still not recovered, it was only on Thursday I ended up in the ED with crippling chest pains and dizziness, and from what the consultant was telling me they're seeing a few people every week with post covid symptoms

So I guess another way of phrasing the question is would you willingly contract the virus to get things back to normal, but it means there's a decent chance you could suffer long covid symptoms that could last for months afterwards?

Edit: saying all that, I'm still not convinced lockdowns are the way forward. There was a spike since schools and colleges went back, which everyone had predicted, and absolutely nothing was done to prepare for it