Coronavirus

[astfgyl]

Surely Sweden is a pretty damn good argument for saying that there's nothing wrong with using PCR tests as a means for monitoring viral spread; what matters is what significance you give to the information it provides you with.

I fully agree with this. There is nothing whatsoever wrong with PCR in itself, and the idea that there is was something I was getting caught up with myself. It is truly the application of the results and treating a positive result as a case in itself without further analysis of the individual situation that is the problem. In fact it could well be argued that PCR will be the tool which shows that the virus is not as deadly as first feared. The HPSC document was confirmation that I wasn't alone in thinking this way and bit by bit, quietly as possible, that seems to be creeping into policy.

Listening to the story about the nursing home with all the positive residents today and to my ears it sounds like the best argument possible for reallocation of resources along the lines of the maligned Focused Protection, rather than pumping all efforts into track and trace. Aggressively keeping it out of those settings is surely the best way we could go about protecting the lives of the vulnerable. Rapid testing can't come soon enough.

[Giggles]

https://youtu.be/90flUTYfPMk

"Are you going to send the guards after a priest if they hold a mass" 😂😂

I got a giggle out of that alright.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Grafton Street today. And people want this...?

https://www.facebook.com/100001835317299/posts/4605691946168604/

[Kurt Cocaine]

I think the anti lockdown sentiment here in the country will increase once people realize Christmas is gone. I can't see them lifting this Level 5 on December 1st and if they do the best you can hope for by Christmas is Level 3. It's going to piss a lot of people off if they can't get out for a drink or visit relatives over Christmas. Here were I am now the guards are making people get out of the cars at the checkpoints and are searching them which is not going down well.

Where was that and searching under what pretences?

[astfgyl]

Grafton Street today. And people want this...?

https://www.facebook.com/100001835317299/posts/4605691946168604/

Well if it's to keep us all safe then it's justified

[Kurt Cocaine]

Grafton Street today. And people want this...?

https://www.facebook.com/100001835317299/posts/4605691946168604/

Well if it's to keep us all safe then it's justified

Bart: "Wow, that's a nice club you have officer!"
Officer Lou: "That's not a club son. It's a baton."
Bart: "A baton? And what do you do with it officer?"
Officer Lou: "Oh, we club people with it!"

[astfgyl]

The amazing part of it all is that at least half of the guards have to know there is something not quite right with what they are doing but in the finest of historical tradition they simply follow the orders.

[mickO)))]

I think the anti lockdown sentiment here in the country will increase once people realize Christmas is gone. I can't see them lifting this Level 5 on December 1st and if they do the best you can hope for by Christmas is Level 3. It's going to piss a lot of people off if they can't get out for a drink or visit relatives over Christmas. Here were I am now the guards are making people get out of the cars at the checkpoints and are searching them which is not going down well.

Where was that and searching under what pretences?

Drogheda. My mate saw cars in front of him getting searched last night while he was leaving his Girlfriend to work. He was just asked if he minded if they took a look in his car they didn't give him a reason, it's not like had he of said no the cops would have said no bother mate. He felt like he didn't really have a choice.

I was talking to a few people about it and someone said that apparently the excuse is they are looking for big loads of drink to see if people are having parties. Which probably is the excuse the cops are using but not the real reason behind it.

[astfgyl]

Sounds to me like they are (probably inadvertently) normalising the idea of living in a police state. There is no way all of this shite is anything to do with a virus. I have no idea what it is about, but it isn't that.

[Kurt Cocaine]

They underestimate us.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Grafton Street today. And people want this...?

https://www.facebook.com/100001835317299/posts/4605691946168604/

The frightening thing here is that the polis waded into innocent civilians and the rest of the (many) civilians just stood by and were content to film the proceedings without any intervention to help out their fellow human beings.
Conditioned much?

[blessed1]

Grafton Street today. And people want this...?

https://www.facebook.com/100001835317299/posts/4605691946168604/

The frightening thing here is that the polis waded into innocent civilians and the rest of the (many) civilians just stood by and were content to film the proceedings without any intervention to help out their fellow human beings.
Conditioned much?

That behaviour is nothing new tbh.

[Pedrito]

I think the anti lockdown sentiment here in the country will increase once people realize Christmas is gone. I can't see them lifting this Level 5 on December 1st and if they do the best you can hope for by Christmas is Level 3. It's going to piss a lot of people off if they can't get out for a drink or visit relatives over Christmas. Here were I am now the guards are making people get out of the cars at the checkpoints and are searching them which is not going down well.

Where was that and searching under what pretences?

Drogheda. My mate saw cars in front of him getting searched last night while he was leaving his Girlfriend to work. He was just asked if he minded if they took a look in his car they didn't give him a reason, it's not like had he of said no the cops would have said no bother mate. He felt like he didn't really have a choice.

I was talking to a few people about it and someone said that apparently the excuse is they are looking for big loads of drink to see if people are having parties. Which probably is the excuse the cops are using but not the real reason behind it.

Once the police start thaat stuff they can fuck right off. With the greatest of respect, no you can't look in my car thank you very much.

[Blackout]

They underestimate us.

Hate to say it but the theyre spot on with their estimation of Ireland. We are very much a subservient people only interested with towing the line and causing no trouble.

[Kurt Cocaine]

They underestimate us.

Hate to say it but the theyre spot on with their estimation of Ireland. We are very much a subservient people only interested with towing the line and causing no trouble.

Yep. Worked that way with the water protests, didn't it?
I haven't paid a penny, did you?