Coronavirus

[astfgyl]

The Great Barrington Declaration in no way advocates for leaving the aged and infirm for dead. That is a common misconception put forward by proponents of full lockdowns. The point of the facts is to point out that the thing is no worse than the seasonal flu, which we don't all lose our shit over and which in an amazing coincidence has disappeared suddenly.

[Ducky]

The WHO indicates that the rate of mortality for COVID vs. the seasonal flu is about least 30 to 40 times greater.

But keep tooting whatever suits your dumb-fuck conspiracy theorist ideas.

And yeah, to go back to your other comment where I said I hope you catch it, you made shit personal when you said I should be better off going to play videogames or whatever because somehow you digging into the reams of bullshit online and taking magic mushrooms makes you more learned on the topic. You're also a condescending wanker about how we're having the wool pulled over our eyes. It's a slightly more articulate version of saying "sheeple".

[astfgyl]

Lol you're a right fucking clown. I will continue to feel sorry for you.

Also,  John P A Ioannidis has had an article published on the WHO website regarding the infection fatality rate here: https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf which puts the IFR at around 0.2% across all age groups. Some realms of bullshit to be digging into.

Now back under your rock you soft hysterical cunt. Or come out from under the rock, and show me the evidence you have which says it is "at least 30 to 40 times higher". And if you wish to have a discussion about the situation on the online discussion board here, drop the embarrassing line of insults you are taking and we will discuss...

[Giggles]

And yeah, to go back to your other comment where I said I hope you catch it, you made shit personal when you said I should be better off going to play videogames or whatever

Maybe you should have actually went back to his other comment, and you would have remembered that it was in fact yourself who began with the personal shit by calling him an unenlightened patronising fuck.

Your last few posts on the subject have made you sound like a patronising fuck TBH. You're not some enlightened fellow who sees between the lines. Rates of infection are on the rise, so yeah, it's just you that thinks it's silly.

When did you start speaking for everyone else? You must have no life to be missing. Back to your playstation with you.

Scarleh!

And where the fuck are you getting this WHO's "indication" that covid is 30 to 40 times more deadly than the flu?


From the WHO website, this what the WHO has said about influenza ifr, page 2 second last paragraph: (https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_4)

For seasonal influenza, mortality is usually well below 0.1%

Also from the WHO website, the covid ifr, first page: (https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf)

The inferred infection fatality rates (.23%) tended to be much lower than estimates made earlier in the pandemic

Show me the maths where .23% is "30 to 40 times greater" than .1%

[Kurt Cocaine]

That Ducky lad has to be a WUM.
No one, and I mean no one, could be that thick. 

[Giggles]

Ducky isn't a thick lad.

But he is quite clearly terrified of the virus, swallowing down spoonfuls of fear being fed to him by the media, and is an example of how constant scaremongering can make terrified people believe whatever the fuck they are being told, without questioning.

[astfgyl]

Any doctors in the house?

https://covid19ireland.squarespace.com/blog/letter-from-concerned-doctors-and-scientists-to-the-irish-government

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

John P A Ioannidis has had an article published on the WHO website regarding the infection fatality rate here: https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf

Thanks for the share astfgyl. Definitely a document worth getting out there.

[Giggles]

Any doctors in the house?

https://covid19ireland.squarespace.com/blog/letter-from-concerned-doctors-and-scientists-to-the-irish-government

Is this legit? Could be a gamechanger.

current test method for SARS CoV(2), i.e. PCR swabs, can yield results with questionable accuracy. These tests were never intended to be used in this setting, and are unreliable: 1-3 % false-positive rate, i.e. in a real-world scenario of low prevalence, this false positive rate would mean that more than 50% of the "positives" could be false. Added to this problem is the detection of old and irrelevant viral fragments, and infections so slight that they have no clinical significance. The truth is that only a fraction of daily reported 'cases' are clinically significant in terms of transmissibility or impact.

[astfgyl]

I honestly don't know if any of it will be a game changer. There have been so many false dawns over the last few months.

I'm pinning my hopes on something like this https://scitechdaily.com/new-blood-test-accurately-predicts-which-covid-19-patients-will-develop-severe-infection/

or rapid testing, allowing the implementation of the Focused Protection idea to become reality. Never know though, maybe it will make a bit of difference, but the government are in a position now which is extremely difficult to row back on.

[Giggles]

Any doctors in the house?

https://covid19ireland.squarespace.com/blog/letter-from-concerned-doctors-and-scientists-to-the-irish-government

That link has been removed from the site 

[astfgyl]

Any doctors in the house?

https://covid19ireland.squarespace.com/blog/letter-from-concerned-doctors-and-scientists-to-the-irish-government

That link has been removed from the site 

Wow. Well it has been covered in the Irish Times today so it might be difficult to disappear. Maybe it was moved or something. There is no way it violates any sort of misinformation rules anyway, given the content.

[Giggles]

Level 5 from Wednesday night. Y'all better be good boys and girls and obey the rules or else we're gonna have to cancel xmas 

[Blackout]

Still no mention of fines or enforcement.

Jokefest. I work in an office and - because am in financial services - am classed as essential. Therefore my idiot boss will not allow us to work from home.

[astfgyl]

Level 5 from Wednesday night. Y'all better be good boys and girls and obey the rules or else we're gonna have to cancel xmas 

As one might imagine, I will be liable for many fines under the new system. Or I will simply have the brains to find the loopholes and work with that to avoid the non existent fines.

Not to yourself in particular, but does anyone feel this might be somewhat unconstitutional? We are not prisoners.

For the last 7 months I have given out shite about all of this but also obeyed and abided the advice around reducing contacts etc and followed the usual sick season advice of washing my hands and using cough etiquette. NPHET and the Government and anyone who cannot take responsibility for their own actions without looking for a mandate to do so can go fuck themselves. Those who wish for more restrictions should just do it to themselves and leave the rest of us go on with it. Save christmas me hole. So in the absence of a single demographic to blame this time around it is simply everyone's fault, is that it? Sad cunts everyone who allows themselves to be dictated to in this fashion. Make your own mind up instead of begging for it to be done for you. Social bubbles? Some load of shite.

Your government are punishing you for their years of incompetence to run a health service. Sad sad bastards, indoctrinated by fear when the evidence of bollix is staring us all in the face. The proper solution would be for the people to bring the country to a standstill in protest at the third world health service we have while taking our own measures to mitigate but no, we are sad cunts instead and meekly accept that the same incompetent shites that have ran us into the ground forever now suddenly know what is best for us. I wonder how many of the ministers and civil servants who are making these decisions will have to live on the cunting coin they are forcing on everyone else.. yeah none of them.

Fuck. This.

And fuck you as well if you think it's grand or necessary.