Apparently the government are preparing to impose an 8pm curfew on the sale of booze from off-licenses/supermarkets temporarily. The children aren't able to mind themselves so Big Daddy Dail has to ground us.

A few observations;

The thinking here is to stop house parties in college areas etc. I can get onboard with that. I live near UCC and some of the bullshit the students got up to, even pre-Covid19 is irksome, to say the least. But - there are those of us who can fully govern themselves (the carry on in The Fear thread notwithstanding).

This new rule will just make people buy booze earlier and possibly in greater quantities.

Watch as supermarkets go to loss-leader alcohol sales.

The VFI are painful - lobbying the government because they've had their ball taken off them - even though the same VFI actively encouraged their members in the finding and exploiting of loopholes in the governments restrictions on pubs.

Clearly no minister has been invited to a BBQ or house party in the last 10 to 15 years. Those shindigs start at 1500hrs.

Braindead shit, if that's what's happening. All that's going to accomplish is crowds of panic-buying, as you've said.


Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on October 16, 2020, 12:06:44 PM
Braindead shit, if that's what's happening. All that's going to accomplish is crowds of panic-buying, as you've said.

So long as there are dopes about, they're going to flaunt the regulations, whatever they are. As you say, the curfew will only send people into the shops quicker for the booze.

Quote from: Nail_Bombed on October 16, 2020, 12:16:53 PM
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on October 16, 2020, 12:06:44 PM
Braindead shit, if that's what's happening. All that's going to accomplish is crowds of panic-buying, as you've said.

So long as there are dopes about, they're going to flaunt the regulations, whatever they are. As you say, the curfew will only send people into the shops quicker for the booze.

Sunday mornings still get me. Down the shop around 12 and it's fucking half 12 before u can buy a beer. Cunts.

That will end up the same as when the offies moved to 10pm closing. Everybody just made sure to have enough bought by 10 instead of 11.30 and it seemed to me to encourage people to simply buy greater quantities. Silly idea.

Unusual to find an ally in the Daily Mail. Also unusual to find them not blaming foreigners, but sure hey, any port in a storm..

A fact check going the other way for once. Ireland seems to be in a very similar situation from having a look at the data. There are actually more ICU beds free this week than last here, despite the massive increase in positive cases and shit stirring

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8845533/Coronavirus-Soaring-infections-death-rates-claims-justify-lockdowns.html

so feckin tired of it at this stage.  Arent we all.

Whatever ye think about lockdown or not, this 5 Level framework is retarded. They nearly need to introduce decimal points at this stage. What is Level 3 Plus or Level 3 Plus Plus, which is the situation currently. And even the criteria within levels are changing too.



This was on page 5 of The Irish Times 3 days ago.

#1976 October 18, 2020, 12:38:36 PM Last Edit: October 18, 2020, 12:40:15 PM by astfgyl
Quote from: Giggles on October 18, 2020, 12:02:17 PM


This was on page 5 of The Irish Times 3 days ago.

If you want a good laugh, look at The Journal's "fact-check" on the ad where the headline says the claims are false, but the actual article says it is correct. They then proceeded to turn off the comments for the article. When a twitter user decided to call out their fact-check and say it was "weird", an editor at The Journal tagged the fella's employer in an attempt to blacken him. Amazing what can be bought for 30 pieces of silver. The full-page HSE ads in every paper will also have most of them feeling extremely reluctant to run anything against the current narrative.

There is a video on Gript.ie explaining about the behaviour of the editor in question. It's also interesting to note, the more one digs into it, that all of the proponents of the current lockdown method of dealing with this and all of those who make the crazy wild projections about the severity of it (flying in the face of the thus-far accumulated evidence) can be tied to having a financial interest in continuing with the situation as it is. NPHET should be disbanded and remoulded with a less myopic set of expert opinions, and with some folks who won't ignore the evidence as it becomes available and evolve their opinions along with it.

For another perspective, which focuses on the UK but can be equally applied to Ireland, have a read of this article by Mike Yeadon, ex "Vice President & Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory" for Pfizer, who explains what the advisors have gotten wrong with their response. https://lockdownsceptics.org/what-sage-got-wrong/

Also, that ad makes me think of Rafa Benitez every time I read it.

Quote from: astfgyl

If you want a good laugh, look at The Journal's "fact-check" on the ad where the headline says the claims are false, but the actual article says it is correct. They then proceeded to turn off the comments for the article. When a twitter user decided to call out their fact-check and say it was "weird", an editor at The Journal tagged the fella's employer in an attempt to blacken him. Amazing what can be bought for 30 pieces of silver. The full-page HSE ads in every paper will also have most of them feeling extremely reluctant to run anything against the current narrative.

I read it. They latched onto the wording of one "claim" while deciding to ignore the rest of the facts.

I did not giggle.

Quote from: Giggles on October 18, 2020, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: astfgyl

If you want a good laugh, look at The Journal's "fact-check" on the ad where the headline says the claims are false, but the actual article says it is correct. They then proceeded to turn off the comments for the article. When a twitter user decided to call out their fact-check and say it was "weird", an editor at The Journal tagged the fella's employer in an attempt to blacken him. Amazing what can be bought for 30 pieces of silver. The full-page HSE ads in every paper will also have most of them feeling extremely reluctant to run anything against the current narrative.

I read it. They latched onto the wording of one "claim" while deciding to ignore the rest of the facts.

I did not giggle.

It was fucking shambolic and should be a lesson to anyone who wants to know about the integrity of The Journal's reporting. That, along with RTE's "facts have no agenda" shite are really sickening.

Quote from: Giggles on October 18, 2020, 12:02:17 PM


This was on page 5 of The Irish Times 3 days ago.

Fact 2. Nice insidious way to say if you're over the life expectancy age sure look, you should be dead.
Fact 3. No fucking shit Sherlock. From Day 1 it's been widely reported Covid is a huge problem for people with underlying health conditions.