They were looking to lockdown this weekend in a bunch of zones in Madrid. Went to the high court and the judge said they can't lock down without declaring a red alert. Otherwise, it's the government overstepping itself. An interesting development.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-08/madrid-high-court-strikes-down-health-ministrys-coronavirus-restrictions.html%3foutputType=amp

When you take into consideration that a lad I train with who is a chef for example is only entitled to 500 quid a month on the dole things start to take on a different meaning. A large part of the population paid in 'negro' aswell which means they're paid cash for working in pubs etc and, as such, are not entitled to the dole. I've heard estimated of up to 20% of the economy runs in that way, outside the confines of income taxes etc. I'd imagine Ireland works very differently in that regard but a point will come where enough will have to be enough I'd imagine.

Quote from: astfgyl on October 09, 2020, 09:49:28 AM
https://www.aier.org/article/reddits-censorship-of-the-great-barrington-declaration/

The closing down of debate around all of this has been the most disturbing element of it for me. At least on a forum like this we can discuss it regardless of our viewpoints, and even if someone is talking shit, there is the opportunity to hash that out. Shutting down the voices of dissent is not good for anyone really.

Scott Atlas has endorsed the declaration, so that should improve its' reach a bit. Good few signing it now, but the numbers are still a drop in the ocean at the moment.

Yeah, I think this has become one of  the best resources for me when it comes to Corona info, there's some good heads here that can either immediately rubbish a certain angle, or lend it some further validity. Censorship like that gets us nowhere.

Quote from: Pedrito on October 09, 2020, 10:06:49 AM
A large part of the population paid in 'negro' aswell

I know I'm not supposed to laugh...


Quote from: astfgyl on October 09, 2020, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: Pedrito on October 09, 2020, 10:06:49 AM
A large part of the population paid in 'negro' aswell

I know I'm not supposed to laugh...

It's a fairly common way of expressing anything of that nature, the Black Market in English. In Germany for example using public transport without a ticket is "Schwarzfahren", literally "driving black".

And we wonder why people get all het up about words. Negro means black in Spanish. Similar to black market, exactly. FFS :laugh:

Just called a state of alarm here the cunts

Quote from: Pedrito on October 09, 2020, 01:23:57 PM
And we wonder why people get all het up about words. Negro means black in Spanish. Similar to black market, exactly. FFS :laugh:

That's it.

Delightfully off topic, but it's also why "black man" as Gaeilge is actually "blue man". Because "Fear Dubh" was already used to describe the devil. And it's probably worse to be going round calling people "devils" as opposed to "blue"! Fairly hilarious quirk tbh

Quote from: Pedrito on October 09, 2020, 01:23:57 PM
And we wonder why people get all het up about words. Negro means black in Spanish. Similar to black market, exactly. FFS :laugh:

I knew exactly what it meant. Like I don't speak Spanish but I know enough to know what negro means there. It just put me in mind of the Irish old phrase of working like a black was all. Or the more offensive way some folks used to have of describing low paid, difficult work, such as that which might be found out in the bog or strawberry field. I understand it's about at the Richie Kavanagh level of humour, (Aon focal, or Did you ever get a ride on a tractor) but I can't help it every now and again. Something I did learn the other day though was that my colleague from Catalonia is not overly keen on being called Spanish, or me referring to the language she speaks as Spanish, although she did explain that there is little difference between one language and the other.. so it's a real minefield saying anything these days.

Knew about the blue fellas and the origin of that one as well. Come on lads, I'm not that thick most of the time

Catalan birds like that can be tough going alright until Spain wins a world cup and then they're all Spanish for a day.

I should have known to be honest since her first day when I called her Spanish. To be fair, the lecture only lasted an hour or so, so I think I might have gotten off lightly!

Did she put her diddies in your face after? I should hope so for enduring an hour of that!

I have black colouring pencils in work that have negro wrote on them.

Quote from: Pedrito on October 09, 2020, 02:12:48 PM
Did she put her diddies in your face after? I should hope so for enduring an hour of that!

I honestly don't know which would be worse