Coronavirus

[Eoin McLove]

Here, will you sign my Covid cast??

[Kurt Cocaine]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but I've only just seen it now. Proof that people who have Covid, but die of other things ie. heart attacks are being recorded as a Covid death.
People who test positive for Covid, but are hospitalised for other things ie. broken leg, are being recorded as being hospitalised for Covid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZolPvWW8oo

Keep the numbers up. Keep the fear up. Simples!

[astfgyl]

That's NumberWang!

[Ollkiller]

That's NumberWang!

Perfect use of Numberwang 

[astfgyl]

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/10/01/sweden-has-destroyed-the-case-for-lockdown/

Let's all beg for level 5!

That is one perspective. There was another article I was reading about how 22 scientists in Sweden refute this very strongly and want to take the road of lockdown. I think either way gets the same result, except lockdown makes it hurt for longer and hurts more people but looking at all sides is important.

Here is another thought: Health minister Stephen Donnelly recently underwent a C19 test because he had symptoms. This chap is the poster boy for measures such as we all adhere to (yes, even me). He didn't have the hype virus, but what he did have was a cold. So his measures didn't work then, did they?  Is it fair to assume that if he managed to catch any virus at all that the measures don't work? You either get it or you don't. I know plenty who don't bother with any of it and didn't get as much as a cold and also some who follow all the rules and still picked up viral infections. Think about that for a minute if you happen to be capable of thinking things that RTE doesn't happen to tell you to think.

[Pedrito]

The Swedes, as usual, planned, thought things out, strategised using cool heads and came to a conclusion. Nothing like the reactionary mess here in Spain. An absolute shitshow of bumbling from one measure to another.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The Swedes, as usual, planned, thought things out, strategised using cool heads and came to a conclusion.

That's not quite true. It just happened that the scientists in positions to drive policy happened to be of an opposing view to their counterparts in almost every other country.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The idea of the "Swedish alternative" is definitely being more and more dangled into the public's awareness though. This article has had a place on the front page of the Guardian website for almost three weeks now, which is unprecedented (same article I posted when it first appeared):
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/25/what-lessons-can-europe-learn-from-sweden-covid-19-experience

[astfgyl]

Whatever does happen here and in lots of other places, at least we have the Swedish test case to use as an example of the opposite approach. I see the latest craic on the papers here today.. "lockdown now to save Christmas". They are getting desperate to whet the public appetite for Lockdown 2. It will work as well. Not the lockdown, the fear of no christmas. I see people begging like dogs for it already.

Ironically, you could call it a sort of manifestation of Stockholm Syndrome!

[Ollkiller]

Whatever does happen here and in lots of other places, at least we have the Swedish test case to use as an example of the opposite approach. I see the latest craic on the papers here today.. "lockdown now to save Christmas". They are getting desperate to whet the public appetite for Lockdown 2. It will work as well. Not the lockdown, the fear of no christmas. I see people begging like dogs for it already.

Ironically, you could call it a sort of manifestation of Stockholm Syndrome!

Aye the fear of no Christmas. Tbh if they did level 5 from 01st to 15th of December and we could have a normal crimbo most people would go for it. If theres no pubs at Christmas they'll be war.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGsCLS-uHao
No? 

[Giggles]

I see the latest craic on the papers here today.. "lockdown now to save Christmas".

Hahahha epic. Fuck the wellbeing of the people, we gotta save christmas!

[Emphyrio]

Save the pubs for Christmas

[Eoin McLove]

Have they said whether they'll pay for us to stay at home if there's another full lockdown?

[astfgyl]

They will pay, but on a lesser scale.

Bit of food for thought here. The goalposts seem to be moving a bit. Expect to hear a lot more of this in the very near future. https://www.rt.com/op-ed/502795-boris-johnson-uk-great-reset/

And then check out https://iapi.ie/events/the-great-reset-ireland

So whether it takes off or not, expect to hear a lot more of it.