#3930 Today at 10:03:53 AM Last Edit: Today at 10:14:37 AM by Black Shepherd Carnage
This is the truth MAGA/MAHA want people distracted from:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590229623000199

And though Fauci & Co should have been transparent from the outset, there's no reason to believe it would have made a blind bit of difference to how the global 'MAHA' style ecosystem responded to the pandemic (i.e. with bullshit)

#3931 Today at 10:18:17 AM Last Edit: Today at 10:21:57 AM by Barnacle Billy
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Lot of people are waking and rising...

The antivax/COVID restrictions group are looking for vindication. That they were right all along. They need someone to be held to account or fall on their sword. Stats and data are being cherry picked to try and conjure up this person/people. COVID was varying degrees of shit for everyone. There's no shame in admitting that while the powers that be didn't get everything right, they did more good than harm. They were never going to get it perfect. There weren't, as Simon Harris said, 18 previous COVID events, and doctors, immunologists etc had to adapt in a swiftly changing environment. The problem is people are unable to accept and admit that they were wrong.

It was a shit time for everyone. Nobody enjoyed it. I just think everyone should put it in the rear view window instead of trying to find "gotcha" pieces of (mis)information.


Quote from: Barnacle Billy on Today at 10:23:32 AM

Lot of people are waking and rising...

A perfect spokesperson for all the BS hoodwinkers and hoodwinked who blend anything and everything they don't like into one big "gut feeling" soup and then try to tell you, hot bullshit soup dripping from their lips and smearing the ink of the bullshit "data" they're telling you to look at, that they're the ones who've "turned on" their mind.

#3935 Today at 11:37:22 AM Last Edit: Today at 11:41:28 AM by son of the Morrigan
Quote from: Emphyrio on Today at 10:29:48 AMThe antivax/COVID restrictions group are looking for vindication. That they were right all along. They need someone to be held to account or fall on their sword. Stats and data are being cherry picked to try and conjure up this person/people. COVID was varying degrees of shit for everyone. There's no shame in admitting that while the powers that be didn't get everything right, they did more good than harm. They were never going to get it perfect. There weren't, as Simon Harris said, 18 previous COVID events, and doctors, immunologists etc had to adapt in a swiftly changing environment. The problem is people are unable to accept and admit that they were wrong.

It was a shit time for everyone. Nobody enjoyed it. I just think everyone should put it in the rear view window instead of trying to find "gotcha" pieces of (mis)information.



I see your point of view there man and I don't disagree with most of it.

In the last 5 years around me there has been a literal explosion of cancer.

All types, all ages.
Maybe its radon, maybe its the water, maybe its maybeline. I don't know.

What I do know is it coincided with the vaccine rollout.
I don't know that the vaccine caused it, thats what I'm trying to get to the bottom of.

My brother in law, perfectly healthy, took the vaccine and ended up in hospital a week later on a heart monitor.
When he bought It up that it should be reported as a vaccine injury he was as good as mocked.

Those are just two of the reasons why I'm intrested in this.

Something  isn't right.

As I said before, it isn't about I'm right, you'r wrong, with me.

It's genuine concern.

Didn't we always have a high rate, if not the highest rate of cancer in the EU, even before the vaccine?

Quote from: Barnacle Billy on Today at 10:23:32 AM

Lot of people are waking and rising...

I do often wonder what type of gom falls for these charlatans. Over the past 2 years I've encountered tons of these fucks online. I go in with simple questions to what they put forward and its always the same response. Either block me or fob me off with some bullshit data that dosent stand up to any scrutiny at all. 99% of them are just grifting cunts, making money off nonsense.

Quote from: Giggles on Today at 11:52:24 AMDidn't we always have a high rate, if not the highest rate of cancer in the EU, even before the vaccine?

Yeah, we did man.

I'm not saying for a minute there was no cancer around here pre vaccine.

All I can tell ya is its gone out of hand the last few years.

From what I've read, and Christ I don't know what or who to believe any more, there is a large increase in all type cancers globally over the last few years.

Thats why I'm trying to understand the science.

Quote from: Ollkiller on Today at 11:55:02 AMI do often wonder what type of gom falls for these charlatans.
No need to wonder, they'll make a point of letting you know :laugh:

Quote from: son of the Morrigan on Today at 12:04:52 PMFrom what I've read, and Christ I don't know what or who to believe any more, there is a large increase in all type cancers globally over the last few years.
Shake the processed food, sedentary deliveroo lifestyle, fucking vapes and explosion in obesity tree and see if there's a correlation. Nothing happens in isolation.

Quote from: Bürggermeister on Today at 12:19:06 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on Today at 11:55:02 AMI do often wonder what type of gom falls for these charlatans.
No need to wonder, they'll make a point of letting you know :laugh:
I know one person IRL whos fallen into this general sinkhole. Its quite sad to see him slowly isolate himself as people one by one grow tired on the endless shite and weird superiority attitude that comes along with alot of this shite.

Quote from: Bürggermeister on Today at 12:22:11 PM
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on Today at 12:04:52 PMFrom what I've read, and Christ I don't know what or who to believe any more, there is a large increase in all type cancers globally over the last few years.
Shake the processed food, sedentary deliveroo lifestyle, fucking vapes and explosion in obesity tree and see if there's a correlation. Nothing happens in isolation.

I get ya man. And I don't disagree with ya one bit.
Those fucking vapes, I'm a smoker myself and I wouldn't touch the fucking things.

Quote from: Goosebumples on Today at 12:29:32 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on Today at 12:19:06 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on Today at 11:55:02 AMI do often wonder what type of gom falls for these charlatans.
No need to wonder, they'll make a point of letting you know :laugh:
I know one person IRL whos fallen into this general sinkhole. Its quite sad to see him slowly isolate himself as people one by one grow tired on the endless shite and weird superiority attitude that comes along with alot of this shite.

Read a study recently where people who believe in this nonsense do feel "superior", as in they have knowledge the rest of us don't have.
It feeds into a humans need to feel special or validated i think. I was like that when I was younger. Id play music to impress people. Not i play it for the enjoyment it gives me.
I know I'm on a tangent here but I firmly believe the ones getting caught up in this need to learn to appreciate themselves as they are, ask themselves where they want to go and start doing positive things to achieve that. Instead of looking to blame someone or something. Anyway tangent over.

Quote from: Ollkiller on Today at 12:46:24 PM
Quote from: Goosebumples on Today at 12:29:32 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on Today at 12:19:06 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on Today at 11:55:02 AMI do often wonder what type of gom falls for these charlatans.
No need to wonder, they'll make a point of letting you know :laugh:
I know one person IRL whos fallen into this general sinkhole. Its quite sad to see him slowly isolate himself as people one by one grow tired on the endless shite and weird superiority attitude that comes along with alot of this shite.

Read a study recently where people who believe in this nonsense do feel "superior", as in they have knowledge the rest of us don't have.
It feeds into a humans need to feel special or validated i think. I was like that when I was younger. Id play music to impress people. Not i play it for the enjoyment it gives me.
I know I'm on a tangent here but I firmly believe the ones getting caught up in this need to learn to appreciate themselves as they are, ask themselves where they want to go and start doing positive things to achieve that. Instead of looking to blame someone or something. Anyway tangent over.

I don't disagree with this either.

But just for fun, and because I'm a bit of a dick .......

Do you not think you have knowledge that they don't have, which in turn makes you feel superior?  :-X