Coronavirus

[son of the Morrigan]

Rush administering an untested and unproven vaccine to 70% of the global population is, to my mind, the definition of insanity.
It has unintended and unforeseen consequences of a most serious nature written all over it.
Is there no end to the stupidity and arrogance of human kind?

[Yung Led Zeppelin]

Considering Neil Peart is dead over a year now, it really would be insane to have Rush administering the vaccine!

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

A gift, but still hilarious 

[astfgyl]

Vaccines are there now for anyone who wants them so let anyone who wants them have them. Just make sure that they understand that they don't stop transmission and that the safety data won't be published for 2 more years before they make the decision.

Personally I'm just made up to be getting into the 30 percent club. It feels so much more exclusive than the 99 percent one that I am already in.

And on current trends that 1 percent are soon to become the 0.1 percent. So then we can all be in the 99.9 club.

In this together!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1349460356595376133

Let's see how this ages. It was last spring so not bad so far.

[Ollkiller]

Rush administering an untested and unproven vaccine to 70% of the global population is, to my mind, the definition of insanity.
It has unintended and unforeseen consequences of a most serious nature written all over it.
Is there no end to the stupidity and arrogance of human kind?

Vaccines go through 3 stages before being approved. On stage after another. For this one the three stages were done at the same time hence the quickness and the fact countless millions were thrown at getting one.

[astfgyl]

Rush administering an untested and unproven vaccine to 70% of the global population is, to my mind, the definition of insanity.
It has unintended and unforeseen consequences of a most serious nature written all over it.
Is there no end to the stupidity and arrogance of human kind?

Vaccines go through 3 stages before being approved. On stage after another. For this one the three stages were done at the same time hence the quickness and the fact countless millions were thrown at getting one.

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-we-need-more-details-and-the-raw-data/

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

136 deaths reported in the last three days for Ireland is what I'm seeing here. Too early yet to say if it's a definite trend, but that does make it the highest 3-day daily average in Ireland since April.

[astfgyl]

9 deaths in ICU in those 3 days. Where were the rest? Is history repeating itself in the nursing homes? Has ICU capacity been increased in the last 9 months? Has anything been done bar the government giving themselves a couple of pay rises, imprisoning everyone to save their historically underfunded and understaffed health service (excluding administrative positions of course) and then sitting on their hands and hoping the vaccine will get them out of it? So yeah it's a definite trend. Blank cheque to do something.. anything! with; and the solution is to put the country on hold and pay them to stay out of work until the unproven cavalry comes.

And I've heard the argument about staff taking time to train, so has that started yet? Staff are out. That is a fair point and now I hear some are being told it's ok to come in even if a close contact. Makes a great headline. Why not use rapid testing on healthcare staff instead of PCR once a week and combine the result of the rapid test with the absence of symptoms to keep frontline staff from unnecessary absences and/or help prevent nosocomial infections? No?

Nah sure that would be stupid. Run The Press!! We are in shit again!

Source: https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-14-january-2021.pdf

And a bit of food for thought from a different plate

https://norwaytoday.info/news/norwegian-medicines-agency-links-13-deaths-to-vaccine-side-effects-those-who-died-were-frail-and-old/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

https://www.newstalk.com/news/luke-oneill-recovered-coronavirus-patients-have-stronger-protection-than-vaccinated-people-1133149

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+times+immunity+better+than+vaccine&oq=the++times+immunity+better+than+vaccine

Bit of a change of pace the last few days regarding immunity.

[astfgyl]

Here's a bit of good news. Hopefully it will get approved for use here. It's currently unlicensed in Ireland but there is surely some sort of way around that. By all accounts it's a very promising treatment and could save a decent few lives

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/FLCCC-PressRelease-NIH-Ivermectin-in-C19-Recommendation-Change-Jan15.2021-final.pdf

[astfgyl]

Here is a great perspective on the current situation. Don't attack it ad hominem, read it and have a go at disagreeing with it instead.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/breaking-covid-trance-how-irish-people-were-psychologically-manipulated

So I think what's going to happen is that eventually it's going to be sort of like, in a year's time you're going to hear the media say, 'We were trying to hold them to account.' They are going to try and spin it, to save themselves, and try to seem like they were always on the side of the public. And the politicians might do something similar, where they'll do this quick change, where they'll change sides.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/luke-o-neill-scientists-have-delivered-against-covid-19-now-the-politicians-need-to-1.4456455 Bit of social distancing between nphet member and government there?

Now, having read the original linked article... take this!...  https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/irish-gps-fighting-third-wave-covid-on-the-front-line-of-the-world-s-worst-outbreak-1.4458430 (if you haven't read the first link, don't bother. You'll only be missing the point.)

"world's worst outbreak"

Here's a quote from the last link:

"'It's just a cold. It's just my sinuses. It's my usual.' It's proving quite difficult to convince people that what they think is a sinus infection is probably Covid. Everything new is Covid until proven otherwise. Lots of patients don't have temperatures. Lots don't have coughs."

[pete]

I tried but I only got this far..

"Nobody knows anybody who's died from this thing, or knows anybody who's been sick from it"

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Last person I heard say exactly those same nonsense words was Gemma O'D.

[pete]

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[Trev]

I tried but I only got this far..

"Nobody knows anybody who's died from this thing, or knows anybody who's been sick from it"

Same, glad they put that at the start so I didn't have to waste any more time on it

[astfgyl]

So did ye play the ball, or the man? Did ye get the point of it at all?  I'm no fan of Cullen myself but the guy he is speaking to makes some great points. And the naming of Gemma O' Doherty as a way to instantly discredit what John Anthony is saying is cheap. Disagree with the point of the article no bother, sure I put it in there to get some discussion going.

Here's a SAGE document covering the same things spoken about in the article I quoted. Of course having neglected to read the article, appendix B won't mean much.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/882722/25-options-for-increasing-adherence-to-social-distancing-measures-22032020.pdf