The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[astfgyl]

https://www.thejournal.ie/man-drives-into-protesters-dublin-5997479-Feb2023

Ah lads this story is fucking hilarious. I just want to know that he was playing the speakers with his own voice when he did it. Someone please just lie to me and say they know he did play it at the time.

I honestly think his story sounds like what actually might have happened re lads throwing themselves in front of the car.  Oh (Edit: and even funnier if they did it because of the content of his message and in my mind it's done in a Monty python style level of ridiculous ((here comes the inception) anyone want to help me write a Hollywood blockbuster style script? It'll be this story in the style of Monty python but dragged out for an hour and a half of character development before we get anywhere near whatever the story turns out to be. Let me know if anyone is up for that) so it properly looks as shit as it sounds) the picture I have in my head is fair fuckin funny.

I can't stop laughing at the whole thing, for right or wrong

[Paul mcgrath]

I want to challenge these figures the right wing guys are throwing around here.

If you check my link below and do the math you will find that 30% of immigrants receive some kind of govt assistance not 80% as claimed earlier.  Most of whom seem to come from UK and western Europe.

Also according to WHO, cancer kills 10 million a year that would be 2billion in 200 years.
Socialism is reputed to have killed 148million according to even it's most biased opponents. Therefore Socialism has not killed more people than cancer.


https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/what-americans-must-know-about-socialism

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/cancer

https://www.socialjustice.ie/content/policy-issues/social-welfare-payments-details-data

Claims that capitalism has killed 120 million,
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10455752.2021.1875603


I won't change the hard headed right wing guys opinions here but if some kid is reading this I hope by challenging these nonsense figures and assertions I may stop
Them going down a right wing rabbit hole.

This anger and hate against change grows from fear..so the tough guy, straight talking conservative who calls a spade a spade etc is infact very insecure and afraid.

Namaste and blessed be xxx

[Caomhaoin]

The cancer comment was tongue in cheek, but the two billion comment doesn't take into account the vast difference in population between now and the past. As schoolboy an error as the handicapped OG I scored the last day out

The link is from socialjustice.ie. How could anyone, let alone someone right leaning take anything from such a grotesquely biased source seriously? Whatever about Chris being a wind-up merchant extraordinaire, at least he's wise enough not to rely solely on sources that can be dismissively and ostentatiously waved away by his contrarians.

Not all anger and hate against change comes from fear, sometimes the 'change' mooted is repugnant or ill conceived.

I do love Paul McGrath though. The most harrowing, memorable sports biography in print is his yin

[Caomhaoin]

My rule of thumb: If your politics overrides your sense of basic human morality and empathy (as in, towards all humans, regardless of race, class, or creed), you're far off centre, be that left or right.

Hard to argue with. Would you include the unborn in that?

[astfgyl]

I want to challenge these figures the right wing guys are throwing around here.

If you check my link below and do the math you will find that 30% of immigrants receive some kind of govt assistance not 80% as claimed earlier.  Most of whom seem to come from UK and western Europe.

Also according to WHO, cancer kills 10 million a year that would be 2billion in 200 years.
Socialism is reputed to have killed 148million according to even it's most biased opponents. Therefore Socialism has not killed more people than cancer.


https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/what-americans-must-know-about-socialism

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/cancer

https://www.socialjustice.ie/content/policy-issues/social-welfare-payments-details-data

Claims that capitalism has killed 120 million,
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10455752.2021.1875603


I won't change the hard headed right wing guys opinions here but if some kid is reading this I hope by challenging these nonsense figures and assertions I may stop
Them going down a right wing rabbit hole.

This anger and hate against change grows from fear..so the tough guy, straight talking conservative who calls a spade a spade etc is infact very insecure and afraid.

Namaste and blessed be xxx

Jesus Christ there's red flags all over this.

What was it that first attracted you to join metal warfare?

[astfgyl]

https://twitter.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1625952368922660866?t=bcJ5mfw0DwUgROWbGWFwVA&s=19

The laughing I'm doing is really lifting my spirits.

Just as well because I can't sleep

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

That entire line of "reasoning", "socialism has killed X million" is really bottom of the barrel stuff. It'd be like saying "democracy has killed X million" and including every single death from the US' century long quest to "bring democracy to the world" in there, conveniently skimming over the fact that there's never been more than the tiniest shred of genuine democratic intent behind it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syrv6eygmNY

[hellfire]

Socialism is one of the shittiest ideas of the last few centuries to still be acceptable to voice. None of the Eastern European countries are crying out for it. The experiments have been done on it enough times and the results are very much in. Democracy is not perfect but it is the current front runner.

[Eoin McLove]

I'm so glad we've had this same argument for 400 pages now. I feel like we are finally reaching some kind of agreement.

[ldj]

Yeah we should go back to arguing about Fairytale of New York.

[ldj]

Socialism is one of the shittiest ideas of the last few centuries to still be acceptable to voice. None of the Eastern European countries are crying out for it. The experiments have been done on it enough times and the results are very much in. Democracy is not perfect but it is the current front runner.

How would socialist ideals automatically mean living in a dictatorship?

For example, would it not be better for Ireland as a country to own our public services as a collective that are funded by the people, for the people, instead of selling them off to multinationals to rip the people off while paying no taxes?

[hellfire]

Have a look at the list of states here.

Do you mean public services or state assets?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

It surely would be better ldj. Oh if only socialism as an idea didn't have that built in clause about only being possible under a dictator. Oh wait, it doesn't! Hang on then, just let me make the tiny mental effort required to separate the idea from its worst real world applications... okay, done. So, the USSR and China don't have a monopoly on what socialism represents and the US doesn't have a monopoly on what democracy represents, including, notably, a proactive, interventionist global agenda to make socialism as unworkable as possible for any state who decides to give it a go. Got it. That really wasn't so difficult, glad I did it.

[hellfire]

Have a look at that list of countries either current or former and pick one you'd like to live in. Portugal's inclusion on the list is bizarre. Apart from high taxes it's pretty capitalist.

[astfgyl]

Yeah we should go back to arguing about Fairytale of New York.

Ahh, simpler times!!