For acknowledging he had racist thoughts in a moment of stress and felt ashamed of them subsequently. Are they upset he felt ashamed? Have we gone full circle yet?

Totally bizarre thing to come out with in an interview in fairness,  but I think that in context of what he was saying it made a sort of sense.  But that's just handing the twitterati a stick to beat you with  ::)

Quote from: Juggz on February 05, 2019, 06:18:18 PM
For acknowledging he had racist thoughts in a moment of stress and felt ashamed of them subsequently. Are they upset he felt ashamed? Have we gone full circle yet?


They have their one line and that's all they need.. public apologies will be needed, retweets of said apology, a movie about how an Irish man and a black man overcome their differences and become besties etc

The journalist who wrote the article didn't do it for revenue stream though... she just had to get the truth out there as accurately as possible. That's what she says anyway and it being the number one clickbait of the week is purely coincidental  :laugh:


Never too late for them to go at him with a coathanger

Quote from: Wiseblood on February 05, 2019, 07:41:43 PM
Never too late for them to go at him with a coathanger

The governor of Virginia shares your views.  :)

Quote from: Wiseblood on February 05, 2019, 07:26:29 PM
The journalist who wrote the article didn't do it for revenue stream though... she just had to get the truth out there as accurately as possible. That's what she says anyway and it being the number one clickbait of the week is purely coincidental  :laugh:

Well, it's not like she forced him to come out with an unprecedented admission at this late stage in his career, is it? :/

The response to it really does show how the constant flow and availability of "information" really has done absolutely fucking nothing in terms of helping people grasp the notion of context.

I really think religion left too fast. When someone transgresses these days it illicits the same level of vitriol as someone who went against the church in the 50s. People created an arbitrary set of values and now follow them with the same conviction.

It's an artifact of our religious indoctrination, sure, but it extends beyond that into how kids are taught almost everything. There is no place really for rational thought in formal education, there never has been. Otherwise you wouldn't get young lads willing to climb out of trenches certain to catch a bullet, strap on a suicide bomb or the means to manipulate people to vote against their own interests. When everyone is up-in-arms over a couple of inflammatory sentences, it's much easier to also be up-in-arms than to make the effort to do some further research and understand that which you're supposed to be against. When constant outrage over inconsequential fluff is a constant and repeating part of your day, it allows for greater crimes to be overlooked and handily forgotten, this isn't lost on those who don't want you thinking too hard.

Quote from: Juggz on February 07, 2019, 08:21:54 AM
It's an artifact of our religious indoctrination, sure, but it extends beyond that into how kids are taught almost everything. There is no place really for rational thought in formal education, there never has been.

They have copped on to some of the things religious organisations knew for centuries. Get involved in education (younger the better) because people are less likely to buy your bullshit later in life. Make sure you have a good handle on the press, check. Get entwined with the state, yes again. Thoughts counting as much as actions reminds me a lot of the notion of sin.  The Liam Neeson thing is an example of that. Having shitty thoughts right after your friend got raped is not the same as acting those thoughts out and kicking lumps out of someone for being black.

The whole Liam Neeson furore has been depressingly predictable. He's guilty of articulating (perhaps not particularly well) some fairly normal thoughts that we all have in reaction to extreme situations. It does however qualify as a massive brain fart, and you would have imagined that someone in the public eye might be a tad more astute in their commentary, or at least anticipated the inevitable backlash.

He should have kept it to himself for his own sake, but we're getting closer and closer to a 'two minutes of hate' scenario the way that things are going.

Comedy is being gelded, social media is a career killer for high profile people with a deviant (read conservative) opinion and nauseating overgrown adolescents like Owen Jones and his sickening Guardian column calling anyone he disagrees with a 'nazi'. Better off just staying indoors with some tunes, a pot noodle and a wank lads.

Jeremy Clarkson's response to nonsensical accusations of homophobia was priceless "I'm not homophobic, I enjoy watching lesbians on the internet".