Quote from: astfgyl on August 02, 2024, 06:24:21 PMThe part I'm curious about is what test was used to determine eligibility

They may have done a karyotype test which may have shown presence of XY chromosomes and possessing XY chromosomes may be a disqualifying criterion for the IBA. But it's not for the IOC. And for good reason. There's quite a few studies out there on this kind of stuff, not all specific to athletes, but this one is and turned out to be quite prophetic:

"Natural Selection for Genetic Variants in Sport: The Role of Y Chromosome Genes in Elite Female Athletes with 46,XY DSD"

QuoteThere is no convincing evidence to support the view that hyperandrogenism is associated with performance advantage in female athletes. Current time-consuming regulations may lead to the unwelcome resurgence of innuendo in the media and coercion of female athletes into accepting gonadectomy and other treatments to which they might otherwise not have been subjected. These regulations should be withdrawn on the grounds that they are not supported scientifically, are discriminatory towards women and place some female athletes at risk of unnecessary and potentially harmful investigations.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-014-0249-8

All that said, the debate is still somewhat open about the question of physical advantage from such conditions. But no one has been able to point to Khelif having any kind of obvious advantage. Harrington beat her "comfortably" (according to RTE in 2021), and Broadhurst beat her 5 rounds to 0 in 2022, without either of them ever mentioning her hitting them harder than they'd ever been hit or any such thing as Carini moaned about. Tbh I can't imagine Harrington admitting such a thing about any opponent though  :laugh:


There's presumably still an entire heated discussion on here somewhere, maybe in this thread, about all this stuff from a few years back, in the context of when the whole trans- and intersex, etc., question started getting major conservative media attention.

Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on August 02, 2024, 07:07:25 PMIt's crazy how so many have done a complete 180 on Kremlev, and are now ignoring the fact he's a corrupt as fuck Russian gangster, who almost managed to get boxing removed form the Olympics a few years ago.

Yeah, here's a run down of the "this entire thing could just be down to Russians being sore losers" angle:
https://x.com/Babble____/status/1819400350572364126

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 02, 2024, 07:20:00 PMThere's presumably still an entire heated discussion on here somewhere, maybe in this thread, about all this stuff from a few years back, in the context of when the whole trans- and intersex, etc., question started getting major conservative media attention.

I'd say a lot of discussion in this thread was me saying trans athletes were unfair due to obvious physical reasons but being born a certain way, the same rules can't be simply transposed. From the initial reaction to this, I'd thought it was someone who'd transitioned but any bit of reading past the screeching headlines said different and so it's not the same discussion at all really. The point about the right becoming the screeching mass is absolutely fair in this case


#6335 August 03, 2024, 11:48:46 PM Last Edit: August 04, 2024, 12:38:19 AM by Black Shepherd Carnage
Edit: Seems all that info came from a fake account!

Musk and his fucking fucking up of the verified account system strikes again.

Seems Rowling hasn't even noticed she has tanked her entire argument for the past 5+ years by admitting she thinks someone can in fact be a different gender to their genitals.

The world is fucked, you have Irish 'patriots' rioting with loyalists up north, seems there is a large portion of society right now desperate to take our their life's problems on anyone a bit different to them.

Loser mentality.


It's cuntish when the scum left do it and it's cuntish when the scum right do it. Off with their fucking empty heads.

Agreed. That's why every time the scum left engage in Kristalnacht-level abuse and violence of certain groups of people based on some kind of physical attribute whose nature they have no control over, I always say it's cuntish.

Of course Chris comes to the rescue to save the cuntish lefties. It's the same thing if you smash up someone else's business in the name of a dumb fuck cause, whether it's BLACK LIVES MATTER DEFUND THE POLICE spastication, or DARKIES OUT spastication. Sadly because you are so blinkered by your own ideology you refuse to recognise the similarities.

Quote from: ldj on August 04, 2024, 12:07:08 AMThe world is fucked, you have Irish 'patriots' rioting with loyalists up north, seems there is a large portion of society right now desperate to take our their life's problems on anyone a bit different to them.


Just fucking bizarre.  A few weeks ago those loyalists were burning the Irish flag on their bonfires, and now they are proudly waving their union flags beside them shouting foreigners out... 

Quote from: ldj on August 04, 2024, 12:07:08 AMSeems Rowling hasn't even noticed she has tanked her entire argument for the past 5+ years by admitting she thinks someone can in fact be a different gender to their genitals.
 

Agreed. She messed up here big time.

That Starmer lad sure knows how to inflame a situation the fucking eejit.

The two tier policing accusations are not without foundation either.

And the upshot of it all will be a ratcheting up of the surveillance state rather than solving anything. Was the same here when the lads kicked off in Dublin, no talk of fixing anything but plenty of talk of hate speech legislation. No condemnation of the George Floyd shite or of obvious hate speech from Islam lads but lots for the local racists. The blame for all of this lies squarely at the feet of the governments and they will not miss the opportunity to use it to further an agenda they already had in mind: Digital ID.

Handicaps in government brings the handicaps to the streets.

#6344 August 04, 2024, 01:53:50 PM Last Edit: August 04, 2024, 01:55:46 PM by Caomhaoin
Heard Tony Blair on the radio openly say the endgame is digital IDs.

Steamer clearly taking sides and condemning one group while making as little noise as possible about 'our precious Muslim community' is, as you say, petrol on the fire.

The video of the cops fleeing wholesale from whatever was happening in Sheffield is clear evidence of two tier policing. They have been told in no uncertain terms who they can bosh about the head with truncheons and who they can't. Arresting an autistic girl for telling a short haired WPC she looked like her lesbian gran, etc.

Possibly the fastest ever attainment of most hated government ever. How long are they in, a month?