What's the craic with tent city? I've missed that.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 16, 2024, 11:33:15 PMWhat's the craic with tent city? I've missed that.

A rake of the immigrants who couldn't be accommodated have set up a little tent city in Dublin City centre, so for the bad look of it they were bussed out of there this morning and their tents apparently bulldozed. Couldn't have em fucking up the Paddy's Day parade and all that. Of course now they're unhappy because the word is that instead of being moved somewhere proper they were just given tents in a place out of the way instead so have broke out and walked back to town.

The rest of it is unclear as of now

Quote from: astfgyl on March 16, 2024, 11:38:45 PMThe rest of it is unclear as of now

The tent city is back. The official word from Leo was they were moved for health and safety reasons.

I don't know how any part of that scenario could be taken as being a real solution to an already divisive and emotive issue. Shit for Dubs, a shit own goal for the left, a perfect gift for the far right and a huge kick in the balls for the immigrants. Giving asylum seekers tents, or if not physically handing tents out to them but letting them use that as their housing solution when they get here would suggest that Ireland is full? I'm not anti immigration by any stretch and I believe there is an imperative on wealthy countries to help out other countries that are ravaged by war, but there has to be a level of fairness applied to the host and the immigrant/ asylum seeking populations. Fucked up scenario for everyone involved by the looks of it.

#5839 March 17, 2024, 12:06:20 AM Last Edit: March 17, 2024, 12:08:32 AM by mickO)))
Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 16, 2024, 11:57:34 PMI believe there is an imperative on wealthy countries to help out other countries that are ravaged by war

This is the problem for most people the majority coming here are not fleeing war. It was officially reported even by RTE that 70% of the people that came through Dublin Airport in 2023 seeking asylum had no passport or identity document of any kind. Up until a few months ago this was said to be a crazy conspiracy theory pushed by the far right.


Quote from: mickO))) on March 16, 2024, 11:56:36 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on March 16, 2024, 11:38:45 PMThe rest of it is unclear as of now

The tent city is back. The official word from Leo was they were moved for health and safety reasons.

So are they back healthy and safe now?

Quote from: astfgyl on March 17, 2024, 10:14:31 AM
Quote from: mickO))) on March 16, 2024, 11:56:36 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on March 16, 2024, 11:38:45 PMThe rest of it is unclear as of now

The tent city is back. The official word from Leo was they were moved for health and safety reasons.

So are they back healthy and safe now?
The health and safety issue was due to the shite and rubbish, it was the civil servants going mental, it's outside a government office. It isn't for optics, it's literally staff threatening to down tools.

So what will they do now that the tents are back?

Keep complaining and roaring at the minister I'd imagine. There is some sort of stand off between them and the council as well over keeping the area clean. O'Gorman hasn't a clue what he is doing but he won't bloody listen to anyone (a common theme amongst the greens).

Aside from anything to do with the migrant situation, O'Gorman should have long been gone over the Tusla situation. This tent thing seems to have annoyed everybody at once anyway

Quote from: astfgyl on March 16, 2024, 10:02:45 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 16, 2024, 09:57:45 PMGenuine question, but is there some kind of transparency or conflict of interests or something that Virgin Media staff would need to be aware of in giving people lifts?

Ah lad ffs

What? I genuinely don't grasp how lifts being given constitutes a thickening of the plot or should be seen as "very odd." Can you give the reasons rather than just alluding to them?

QuoteAnd then the plot thickened another bit in the last couple of hours when some members of the Virgin Media news team appear to be giving them lifts back into town in their cars, as evidenced by some videos taken by the locals.

I'm keeping an eye on the VM news bit because I'm not 100 percent on it, but if it does turn out to be true it's very odd indeed.

OK, here's the simple version that seems to have escaped you:

If the members of the news team are taking part in making the news as well as reporting on it well then they aren't going to be the impartial observers that I would like to see from a news outlet.

They will be biased as fuck, obviously.

Does that logic apply to all situations? Like, should a journalist witnessing a crime they could stop not do so? Or, if they do stop the crime, they can't report on what led to it or what the victim feels about it? I don't know much about what is expected of journalists in these kinds of situations.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 17, 2024, 03:49:26 PMDoes that logic apply to all situations? Like, should a journalist witnessing a crime they could stop not do so? Or, if they do stop the crime, they can't report on what led to it or what the victim feels about it? I don't know much about what is expected of journalists in these kinds of situations.

I think you're playing intentionally dumb here because it suits your political leanings. Nobody was being robbed or assaulted or murdered here and you well know that.

The jokers then went on to report the situation and turned the comments off.

Seriously man I know you're smarter than taking that angle