The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[hellfire]

It's not up for debate. 73% of people who were consulted didn't want it. It is plowing ahead anyway

[The Butcher]

It's pure lunacy some of it there. I do cynically wonder if half the idea of this legislation is just deterrent, to silence. Prosecution would be ruinous even if unsuccessful.

[The Butcher]

Climate change discussion will be categorised as climate change denial and legislated like holocaust denial which is looking more and more likely now 

While Ireland ships wood chips from Brazil 

[astfgyl]

Climate change discussion will be categorised as climate change denial and legislated like holocaust denial which is looking more and more likely now 

While Ireland ships wood chips from Brazil 

I watched a project Veritas (I know) video about 2 years ago where some bird stung some gimp working for NBC news or similar and he was talking about how if you think the covid coverage was bad that you basically ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to the climate change agenda. I believed it then and fucking hell is it coming to pass. Whether you agree with the agenda or not is not the point and I'm all for greening but fuck this level of push is unprecedented.

Also most of it is a money scam of the highest order that will do fuck all only line pockets and create a whole new serf class.

[astfgyl]

https://twitter.com/JRD0000/status/1501744596312895489?t=FcWpMxJz1-o9E7Xz_k1Gtg&s=19

Saying the not even quiet unless you're a right fuckin eejit altogether part out loud.

I know there's folks on the left and right and learning towards the centre or the extreme here to varying degrees so my questions to you all are:

Can any of you even attempt to justify this proposed legislation?

Is there anyone who doesn't see what way the wind is blowing here?

Yes it's a short clip and blah blah blah (thinking of you Shep! But I think even you won't be able to justify this one!) minor technicalities abound etc let's not waste time on that and no I don't support the IFP either because they are another extreme reaction to the extreme and that's never the answer but fucking hell with this lark.

On the plus side I gave 10 mins thinking about it earlier and not a chance any of it will ever legally stick other than by consent and it will crumble at the first minor legal challenge but the fact that all govt and major opposition parties are up for this should be cause to never vote for a single one ever again regardless if they got your brother a house with the council or got your mother the widow's pension or whatever stroke they pulled for your family.

Fuck em all. And then fuck em again. And if you support it, fuck you too and anyone who agrees with you.

Never mind that prick you should be smart enough to see this one without his taken out of context or not bullshit

[mickO)))]

I promised myself like many others on here that I would not post about this stuff anymore as it just isn't worth the headache that comes with it but most people in the country aren't even aware of what is going on with this bill as it is basically getting no coverage from the mainstream media which is the problem and people are also more interested in who is playing in the Champions League tonight.

Here is a short video that goes into the bill in a bit of detail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfzlEJ8Qnxc

If this bill passes along with the 'housing for all referendum' that people have warned about for the last 2 years which is expected to happen towards the end of the year then Ireland is heading into a very dark place.

Here is a petition that anyone even remotely interested should sign (I know for the most part these aren't worth a fuck but it takes 2 seconds to sign it)

https://www.change.org/p/we-the-people-demand-a-supreme-court-referral-of-the-radical-hate-speech-bill

Also protests are due to take place all over the country on May 20th but I have no doubt most people will find one excuse or another not to bother going.

As one of the biggest pieces of shit to have ever existed said "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, so why would we let them have ideas?"

[astfgyl]

That last quote is basically the spirit of the new legislation in a sentence.

[Lunar blood]

https://twitter.com/JRD0000/status/1501744596312895489?t=FcWpMxJz1-o9E7Xz_k1Gtg&s=19

Saying the not even quiet unless you're a right fuckin eejit altogether part out loud.

I know there's folks on the left and right and learning towards the centre or the extreme here to varying degrees so my questions to you all are:

Can any of you even attempt to justify this proposed legislation?

Is there anyone who doesn't see what way the wind is blowing here?

Yes it's a short clip and blah blah blah (thinking of you Shep! But I think even you won't be able to justify this one!) minor technicalities abound etc let's not waste time on that and no I don't support the IFP either because they are another extreme reaction to the extreme and that's never the answer but fucking hell with this lark.

On the plus side I gave 10 mins thinking about it earlier and not a chance any of it will ever legally stick other than by consent and it will crumble at the first minor legal challenge but the fact that all govt and major opposition parties are up for this should be cause to never vote for a single one ever again regardless if they got your brother a house with the council or got your mother the widow's pension or whatever stroke they pulled for your family.

Fuck em all. And then fuck em again.

I wholeheartedly agree with you boi. This law being the next stage in a clear pattern of changes that no one is asking for, especially at a time when there are real concerns and the things people are actually asking for seem to be falling on deaf ears all the while the govt is falling over themselves to accommodate their beloved NGOs. 

All the TDs in my constituency voted in favour of this hate speech legislation so in my books they're gone, they're now my enemy.. simple as. Not that I had much faith in them to begin with but now I have universal contempt for every party up there. I have no problem with them disagreeing with me or vice versa but any bill with such poorly defined terms that aims to punish free expression is an automatic no no, it's not compatible with a free and sane society.

As for most people idsay they won't even grasp a surface level understanding of this. They hear the word 'hate' and assume daddy government is just trying to further bubble wrap their day to day lives against the fawr rysh.  My brother was telling me he had a back and forth with a few of his mates on this and I'm only slightly paraphrasing from memory but one of em literally said "well like recently in this country things such as gay marriage, abortion and foreigners, if you speak to criticise them, since they're the accepted norm now well it should be hate speech". A totally retarded statement and she's a doctor. This is what you're up against, not only the cretins in the Dail but also the gowls in the street that just outsource their entire worldview to the state and RTE. Sorry but that's my rant done 😅   

[Kunt 4 Life]

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1656722750201901056?t=R7phNxpnnL62usvsz3RsLA&s=19

So that's why they're called TRANSformers.
But seriously, stay the fuck away from my childhood you cunts.

[astfgyl]

Yep we're in serious trouble here.

It's not that hating people for what they are isn't wrong or anything, because I think that's childish too, but the fact that making legislation in opposition of same which is actually infantilism of the population at large is lost on basically everyone is a damning indictment of the world we live in.

Nobody wants to take the responsibility for themselves of standing up for the difference between right and wrong even when they watch wrong things happen all day and night every day and night.

Again I'll ask, does anyone from any facet of the uncut diamond that is the political spectrum think this proposed shite is grand and why so?⁵

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this

[astfgyl]

https://twitter.com/JRD0000/status/1501744596312895489?t=FcWpMxJz1-o9E7Xz_k1Gtg&s=19

Saying the not even quiet unless you're a right fuckin eejit altogether part out loud.

I know there's folks on the left and right and learning towards the centre or the extreme here to varying degrees so my questions to you all are:

Can any of you even attempt to justify this proposed legislation?

Is there anyone who doesn't see what way the wind is blowing here?

Yes it's a short clip and blah blah blah (thinking of you Shep! But I think even you won't be able to justify this one!) minor technicalities abound etc let's not waste time on that and no I don't support the IFP either because they are another extreme reaction to the extreme and that's never the answer but fucking hell with this lark.

On the plus side I gave 10 mins thinking about it earlier and not a chance any of it will ever legally stick other than by consent and it will crumble at the first minor legal challenge but the fact that all govt and major opposition parties are up for this should be cause to never vote for a single one ever again regardless if they got your brother a house with the council or got your mother the widow's pension or whatever stroke they pulled for your family.

Fuck em all. And then fuck em again.

I wholeheartedly agree with you boi. This law being the next stage in a clear pattern of changes that no one is asking for, especially at a time when there are real concerns and the things people are actually asking for seem to be falling on deaf ears all the while the govt is falling over themselves to accommodate their beloved NGOs. 

All the TDs in my constituency voted in favour of this hate speech legislation so in my books they're gone, they're now my enemy.. simple as. Not that I had much faith in them to begin with but now I have universal contempt for every party up there. I have no problem with them disagreeing with me or vice versa but any bill with such poorly defined terms that aims to punish free expression is an automatic no no, it's not compatible with a free and sane society.

As for most people idsay they won't even grasp a surface level understanding of this. They hear the word 'hate' and assume daddy government is just trying to further bubble wrap their day to day lives against the fawr rysh.  My brother was telling me he had a back and forth with a few of his mates on this and I'm only slightly paraphrasing from memory but one of em literally said "well like recently in this country things such as gay marriage, abortion and foreigners, if you speak to criticise them, since they're the accepted norm now well it should be hate speech". A totally retarded statement and she's a doctor. This is what you're up against, not only the cretins in the Dail but also the gowls in the street that just outsource their entire worldview to the state and RTE. Sorry but that's my rant done 😅   

thought I was on Twitter, tried to like your post

[Caomhaoin]

Absolute madness.

The propaganda machine is now omnipresent, it's not so different to the machinery of mass surveillance and intolerance of dissent that we became aware of with the fall of the eastern bloc.

Only regime approved opinions and points of view are to be permitted, and punitive measures are to be taken against those who diverge. Sound familiar? A potential criminal record for voicing an opinion on, among other things, historical events, inviolable biological facts and the definition of the word 'genocide'.

The twisting and corruption of language in an utterly inorganic way, above all the word 'hate', frightening the shite out of lads to post anything even the slightest bit bold online and allowing our country to be even more beholden to outside forces than we were in 2008 is completely unforgivable. I haven't lived in Ireland for quite a number of years, but it'll always be me home but my plans to return there in the future are now in serious doubt, not only because of this but myriad other factors like where the fuck would I live. Fuck these cunts.

Stand with Ukraine, it's the woman's choice, men can have periods, the middle passage was a genocide, Hamza YOUSEF is as Scottish as tennents and salty porridge. I don't agree with any of that but I don't mind anyone else having those opinions, in fact it's to be welcomed. These cunts want to criminalise non-state sanctioned talking points. Fuck off.

Martin and Varadker gave the GAA a bit of lip during the week about the GAAGO bullshit, but it's just the slimy, greasy wankers seeing which way the wind was blowing. Hängt ihr drauf und dran!!

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

That FF TD video (from over a year ago) was about this:
https://www.lawsociety.ie/gazette/top-stories/2022/March/ireland-to-opt-in-to-eu-wide-hate-speech-ban

Not exactly the same thing as the bill, though clearly related. I'm not really bothered one way or the other by a spat between a nobody FF TD (who I see has since got himself in trouble for non declaration of assets  ) and the IFP tbh though.

[astfgyl]

Ah yeah the IFP can fuck off and all

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Here chomp on something light-heartedly ludicrous instead:
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/05/11/irish-womens-obsession-with-fake-tan-is-problematic/