The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[astfgyl]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive

How do we all feel about something like this? I'd be generally against this as an idea at all. Just accept it's a product of its time and leave it the fuck alone would be the way. Pretty sure I can still buy Hitler's book

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Can't help but see it as a cynical money grab from the estate and publishers alike. Should be left alone, and if that means X million aren't interested in it, so be it.

[astfgyl]

That's pretty much how I feel about that as well. Let em read it as it is if they're interested enough. There's enough modern stuff written in the modern way that probably deserves a chance too

[hellfire]

There's enough modern stuff written in the modern way that probably deserves a chance too

New Speak

[astfgyl]

There's enough modern stuff written in the modern way that probably deserves a chance too

New Speak

Yeah it probably won't be for me but it's better than rewriting stuff

[Caomhaoin]

Haha, aye that's true: I put (democratic) like that because I didn't want it to refer only to Sanders, etc., but more generally to socialists who also believe in true democracy, in the old John Dewey, pragmatism, and so on vein, also being those who the communist party started labeling fascists as soon as they dared criticize Stalinism back in the day. Almost like... soviet communism and socialism aren't identical! A truly mind-blowing consideration.

Soviet 'communism' never existed, nor has any state ever practiced communism, just various strains of socialism with a view to eventually becoming communist.

It's a common misconception.

[Ollkiller]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive

How do we all feel about something like this? I'd be generally against this as an idea at all. Just accept it's a product of its time and leave it the fuck alone would be the way. Pretty sure I can still buy Hitler's book

I feel theres a lot of better things to be doing with your time than spending it censoring art created years ago.

[Caomhaoin]

Yes, and deemed offensive by whom, exactly? 'Sensitivity writers' hired by the publisher? Jesus Christ it's surreal.

[Ollkiller]

Yes, and deemed offensive by whom, exactly? 'Sensitivity writers' hired by the publisher? Jesus Christ it's surreal.

Same shite as our film council for years banning Monthy Python and the like. Just different sides of the coin.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Yes, and deemed offensive by whom, exactly?

Potential buyers. You never know, this may even be a cunning way for the estate to extend the copyright on the texts!

[91/30]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive

How do we all feel about something like this? I'd be generally against this as an idea at all. Just accept it's a product of its time and leave it the fuck alone would be the way. Pretty sure I can still buy Hitler's book

Madness.  Mind you it'd be great to see what a committee of purple haired transgender university stooges could do with Mein Kampf. Freshen it up a bit

[The Butcher]

Italy and Ireland are chalk and cheese, imo, with regards to geopolitical situation. And for us to go the way of Sweden would require a prior hard swing left. So, say if SF got in and, in the opinion of enough people, botched things, then we might get a swing far right to follow. That's the only path I see leading to that place in the foreseeable future, say a 20 year window.

SF are consistently hitting 30+ in the polls. I don't see any other option for government formation next time in 2025 that doesn't include them. If they don't make a deal with the devil in terms of FF/FG, then they rely on Greens/Soc Dems/Indos/PBP. They will make an absolute balls of things and I can see the general public start to sway towards the right after that Dail term by end of 2030. And it will be mainly driven by immigration issues compounding 3 decades of government failures.

There was the IrelandForAll march today - I do wonder can any of them answer the question, how many can we take in annually? If they say as many as possible or "all" - how on earth do we plan for housing, infrastructure etc if we don't have any accurate numbers? They said 50,000 at the march today which is a bit of a pisstake - but at this stage we should have a vote on what direction the country goes in because 1980s Ireland with high unemployment and emigration is going to look great compared with the Ireland of the 2030s.

[91/30]

Italy and Ireland are chalk and cheese, imo, with regards to geopolitical situation. And for us to go the way of Sweden would require a prior hard swing left. So, say if SF got in and, in the opinion of enough people, botched things, then we might get a swing far right to follow. That's the only path I see leading to that place in the foreseeable future, say a 20 year window.

SF are consistently hitting 30+ in the polls. I don't see any other option for government formation next time in 2025 that doesn't include them. If they don't make a deal with the devil in terms of FF/FG, then they rely on Greens/Soc Dems/Indos/PBP. They will make an absolute balls of things and I can see the general public start to sway towards the right after that Dail term by end of 2030. And it will be mainly driven by immigration issues compounding 3 decades of government failures.

There was the IrelandForAll march today - I do wonder can any of them answer the question, how many can we take in annually? If they say as many as possible or "all" - how on earth do we plan for housing, infrastructure etc if we don't have any accurate numbers? They said 50,000 at the march today which is a bit of a pisstake - but at this stage we should have a vote on what direction the country goes in because 1980s Ireland with high unemployment and emigration is going to look great compared with the Ireland of the 2030s.

Agree 100%, SF have become a liberal bourgeois woke organisation for some time. The departure of Aontu members was the last counterbalance gone. They will makes a hames of things even if they get a majority and can rule without greens and trots.  The FG/FF 'Blueshirt/Republican party' will be a permanent fusion.

[Born of Fire]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive

How do we all feel about something like this? I'd be generally against this as an idea at all. Just accept it's a product of its time and leave it the fuck alone would be the way. Pretty sure I can still buy Hitler's book

I used to regularly see copies of Mi Lucha (Mein Kampf translated into Spanish) at street stalls in Chile 

[astfgyl]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive

How do we all feel about something like this? I'd be generally against this as an idea at all. Just accept it's a product of its time and leave it the fuck alone would be the way. Pretty sure I can still buy Hitler's book

I used to regularly see copies of Mi Lucha (Mein Kampf translated into Spanish) at street stalls in Chile 

Jaysus is it popular there or something? I hope they removed anything that might be offensive while they translated it!