Quote from: Optimus Whine on September 01, 2025, 06:34:23 PMSurprised that people are so mixed at best on this. Think it's their best since Koi No Yokan and probably better than Diamond Eyes too.



 :abbath:  fully agree.

#16 September 01, 2025, 07:03:01 PM Last Edit: September 01, 2025, 07:05:57 PM by Optimus Whine
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on September 01, 2025, 06:43:27 PM
QuoteThink it's their best since Koi No Yokan and probably better than Diamond Eyes too.

Jesus, absolute madness. I literally just posted in pet peeves that when someone says their best since, they're usually talking shite so thanks for this.

I liken this sort of craic to people creaming themselves over Faith No Mores Sol Invictus, once the new record excitement fades it'll be filed under Not awful/Not Great

I'm on about that listens wise too, it's not getting any better. There's a few good tracks but it never soars to greatness

Is it really absolute madness to hold that opinion? Gore was mediocre and Ohms was better, but it wasn't all that great... So I don't think it's too wild to say this album is the best since KNY. The blocky heaviness of Diamond Eyes never really did it for me, but, to each their own.

I thought it was pretty meh at first, but, like has been said above elsewhere, it's grown on me. I think there's a number of good tracks on it: Milk of The Madonna, Ecdysis, Souvenir, Infinite Source, cXz, Departing The Body.

Don't get me wrong I'm not putting it up with WP or ATF - absolutely not - but, I think it's a grower and I'm pleasantly surprised by its quality after, IMO, two lesser albums prior to this.

I was having a jovial jab there. But I still maintain its new album syndrome. For example Gore is a piss poor album - but Rubicon and Prayers are up there with their best. There's nothing of that standard on this album, nothing as bad as Gores worst, it's just completely safe, middle of the road and devoid of any excitement

I get Diamond eyes isn't to everyone's tastes - I think it's up there. But at least they tried something different.

Nah, I'd rule out new album syndrome right from the off because Gore and Ohms didn't nothing for me, and I was content them having a great selection of earlier stuff. This has a few early standout songs and potentially a couple of growers.

See you in five years when the next one drops.

Quote from: Pagan Saviour on September 01, 2025, 07:34:23 PMI was having a jovial jab there. But I still maintain its new album syndrome. For example Gore is a piss poor album - but Rubicon and Prayers are up there with their best. There's nothing of that standard on this album, nothing as bad as Gores worst, it's just completely safe, middle of the road and devoid of any excitement

I get Diamond eyes isn't to everyone's tastes - I think it's up there. But at least they tried something different.

I liked Gore at first, but then went off it pretty quickly. Ohms was more consistent, but I never went through a period of loving it.

TBF to this one it's not all great: My Mind is a Mountain is a bit of a go-nowhere plodder for me, I don't really like I Think About You All The Time - I think Infinite Source covers the same territory, but done more consisely and effectively - the two "rap" numbers towards the back of the record are questionable.

I think the rest of it is good stuff. Milk of The Madonna is going to stay on their setlists forever. I also really love Souvenir - it blew past me the first few listens, but I honestly think it's epic, even if I'd cut the two minutes of synth outro.


Well that's the test. Let's see what stays. I seen them on the Gore run and they only played one track.

I reckon Milk Of The Madonna is the best tune on it.