Quote from: John Kimble on October 27, 2024, 09:47:32 AMYes, I do believe it's bullshit.I pirate their albums. But yeah, I would accept that point otherwise.
How exactly do you enjoy Arghoslent? Have you purchased some of their music? If not, have you listened to them on YouTube? Then, directly or indirectly, you've endorsed them to some extent.
Quote from: John Kimble on October 27, 2024, 09:47:32 AMI rarely wear band merch these days but on the odd occasion that I do, it's not with the intent of 'advertising' anyone. It's just a band and a T-shirt that I happen to like. If you want to get all woke and airy-fairy about it, then surely a metal festival should be a "safe space" (ugh, that phrase) to do so without being judged.
I wouldn't be a huge fan of Cannibal Corpse these days, in fact I'd consider them to be a bit of a harmless novelty act. Show their lyrics to someone who's been the victim of a sexual assault and I wonder would they consider them harmless? Probably not.
I assume most of us are sufficiently capable of telling the difference between Cannibal Corpse's cartoon violence apart from a band with genuine belief. I'm sure some people may find an issue with them, which is fine, but I'm happy enough they're not actually out there jizzing blood and knifing clunges until proven otherwise.
Promoting race theories and nazi ideologies though is something that has been an issue with a few of those bands and I don't believe most of it was done with tongues in cheeks.
Quote from: John Kimble on October 27, 2024, 09:47:32 AMAs I mentioned previously, if you were to do a deep dive into the backgrounds of any of your favourite bands, you probably wouldn't have to go too far to unearth something dodgy.I absolutely agree. And if I wear something that has dodgy connections then that's my problem and I'm fair game to be challenged on it by someone who may have more knowledge on it than I do.
Now, I want to point out that I'm not trying to say these bands or shirts should be banned or burned or whatever. But people can decide whether or not they want them at their private event which you can choose to attend or not.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on October 27, 2024, 10:08:34 AMIt's just part of being a fan of the band. Who fucking cares about anyone else's political opinion when you're at a festival? That's not what anyone goes there for, but promoting this kind of nonsense is merely a way of the promoters advertising their own political stance. But who fucking cares??? Stick to your job which is putting on bands and stop policing people for nothing.
Yeah but it's not really their actual job is it? They're not delivering a public service funded with public money. The event can be as political or non-political as the organiser sees fit. But it absolutely should have been clearer from the start that they don't want certain bands advertised by people.
And I would argue that depending on the content of lyrics, the imagery a band uses or topics discussed in interviews, a lot bands are very much open to political and social discussions. And by extent the gigs and events they play are open to criticism.