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Title: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Riffie_Fartle on November 28, 2018, 06:20:26 PM
Starting a thread for heavy stuff outside of what is typically considered 'metal'.

I'll start with an Irish great!

Trenches - Self Titled EP

https://trenchesband.bandcamp.com/album/s-t-e-p-2010 (https://trenchesband.bandcamp.com/album/s-t-e-p-2010)
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Don Gately on November 29, 2018, 03:55:18 PM
Yup listening to a lot of the Cure recently due to getting tickets for their  June 8th gig. Actually some of their earlier stuff is nice and dark, really a superb band and one that I ignored in my youth when these albums were coming out to my shame now.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Riffie_Fartle on November 30, 2018, 05:15:26 PM
Better late than never! Would have loved to have tickets for The Cure but they sold quick!
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Hank Hill on November 30, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
Heinryk Goreckis Symphony Of Sorrowful Songs.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: John Kimble on December 01, 2018, 04:28:10 PM
So because it's a new thread and a new forum and all that, I'll start with a really obvious choice...Swans.
Where to start? I don't think you can go wrong with any particular era but I wouldn't start with the recent stuff.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: blessed1 on December 01, 2018, 07:22:49 PM
radioheads ok computer is one id think of.
lana del rey's stuff too come to think of it.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Pentagrimes on December 03, 2018, 09:24:40 AM
Lingua Ignota fo' sho. Can't recommend her work enough. Arguably The Body aren't "metal" but then I'm not sure where the lines are anymore.

Surely I've mentioned MMMD/Mohammad before? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMgWuxvrJFU

Senyawa have been high on the list for me as well lately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oicjwlnlNgg

Red House Painters surely need a mention. This song in particular. The end is amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5LUla44ytA
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Riffie_Fartle on December 06, 2018, 02:14:52 AM
All great suggestions, keep them coming heads!
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Cernunnos on December 06, 2018, 01:37:02 PM
loving that Senyawa  - cheers.

I find this soothing and heavy in it own right - Shibalba which are a Ritualistic Dark Ambient project


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRjmzOV6BhA
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on September 22, 2020, 11:52:06 AM
A-Sun Amissa from Manchester UK....

https://gizehrecords.bandcamp.com/album/for-burdened-and-bright-light
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Makeshiftatomsmasher on September 22, 2020, 12:08:48 PM
Does the soundtrack to "Doom" that Mick Gordon did count as metal or non metal? Heavy though.
https://youtu.be/C5m_ndVdA_s
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Juggz on September 22, 2020, 12:28:40 PM
Plenty in the world of classical

Gustav Holst - Planets Suite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzXX9XFyemg


Prokofiev - Dance Of The Knights from Romeo and Juliet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_hOR50u7ek
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Ducky on September 22, 2020, 12:43:53 PM
Quote from: Makeshiftatomsmasher on September 22, 2020, 12:08:48 PM
Does the soundtrack to "Doom" that Mick Gordon did count as metal or non metal? Heavy though.
https://youtu.be/C5m_ndVdA_s

Well it's metal-adjacent. A lot of the heavy bits/focal points come via chuggy, downtuned guitar.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: leatherface on September 22, 2020, 01:59:27 PM
The Beatles: Helter Skelter
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: The Heretic on September 22, 2020, 02:28:56 PM
Fields Of The Nephilim
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Slaughterday on September 22, 2020, 02:56:58 PM
I still think Sisters of Mercy - After Hours is the heaviest non metal track. Would love to hear Spectral Voice do a demented cover of it.

As mentioned above in the thread, the last Lingua Ignota album is great. Never thought I'd enjoy an album in that style but it's seriously heavy.

Some honourable mentions:

The Cure - Pornography (whole album but particularly the title track)
Goblin - Buio Omega ost
Basil Poledouris - Conan The Barbarian ost
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 22, 2020, 03:01:28 PM
QuoteHeavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Yo momma!  :abbath:
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Carnage on September 22, 2020, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: Hank Hill on November 30, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
Heinryk Goreckis Symphony Of Sorrowful Songs.
The first movement is one of the (if not THE) most devastating pieces of music I've heard. I just listened to a couple of recent performances last night: the Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra with Beth Gibbons and the Genesis Orchestra with Lisa Gerrard, both excellent.

https://youtu.be/Qj_WWnh7ZKc

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgj6HHTl-EjMiUzuejtEijSPd4gvMt8Vu
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Anton Arcane on September 22, 2020, 03:25:25 PM
You can't go wrong with a bit of Zombi
Surface To Air is probably my favourite album but I like them all.

https://youtu.be/1s7oOo4frtg
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Anton Arcane on September 22, 2020, 03:28:23 PM
Also, check out Lycia

https://youtu.be/Xq7GLOWgu78

Cold would be the album I'd recommend.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: astfgyl on September 22, 2020, 03:30:30 PM
Was put on to Lycia by Pete Steele years ago. Great stuff for the time of year as well. Looking forward to getting through a few of the recs here
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: OpenSores on September 22, 2020, 04:05:49 PM
Swans, Cop Shoot Cop, Unsane and quite digging Human Impact feat members of CSC and Unsane.

Lydia Lunch recently revisited 13:13 which I'd recommend.

Cure wise love their miserable stuff, Pornography, Seventeen Seconds, Faith and of course Disintegration also have a soft spot for The Top.

Fields of the Nephilim, first few albums for me although they did release something quite heavy and on the industrial side later on which was okay, the name escapes me.


I'd add The Young Gods they blew me away in the Limelight many moons ago.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Ducky on September 22, 2020, 04:55:31 PM
Van Der Graaf Generator's "White Hammer". The last few minutes (from about 6:30) sound apocalyptic.

Was released the same week or so as the first Black Sabbath album too.


https://youtu.be/t-6QXVFcczw
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on September 22, 2020, 05:18:51 PM
Quote from: Ducky on September 22, 2020, 04:55:31 PM
Van Der Graaf Generator's "White Hammer". The last few minutes (from about 6:30) sound apocalyptic.

Was released the same week or so as the first Black Sabbath album too.


https://youtu.be/t-6QXVFcczw
Gonna spin that now whilst washing the dishes Ducky. Cheers....
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Carnage on September 22, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on September 22, 2020, 05:18:51 PMGonna spin that now whilst washing the dishes Ducky

That's as rock 'n' roll as a sentence gets.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on September 22, 2020, 05:48:25 PM
Quote from: Carnage on September 22, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on September 22, 2020, 05:18:51 PMGonna spin that now whilst washing the dishes Ducky

That's as rock 'n' roll as a sentence gets.
:abbath:...very... :abbath:
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: astfgyl on September 22, 2020, 06:40:41 PM
I suppose Foetus will have to get a mention here. So much heavy but not metal stuff in his catalogue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP29O-KW2mc

There is one, but there are so many and so varied it's tough to pick any single one
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Ducky on September 22, 2020, 07:06:00 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on September 22, 2020, 05:48:25 PM
Quote from: Carnage on September 22, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on September 22, 2020, 05:18:51 PMGonna spin that now whilst washing the dishes Ducky

That's as rock 'n' roll as a sentence gets.
:abbath:...very... :abbath:

When Billy Corgan sang "Emptiness is loneliness and loneliness is cleanliness and cleanliness is godliness and God is empty just like me" he was obviously on about doing the dishes  :abbath:
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on September 22, 2020, 08:27:21 PM
Quote from: Ducky on September 22, 2020, 07:06:00 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on September 22, 2020, 05:48:25 PM
Quote from: Carnage on September 22, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on September 22, 2020, 05:18:51 PMGonna spin that now whilst washing the dishes Ducky

That's as rock 'n' roll as a sentence gets.
:abbath:...very... :abbath:

When Billy Corgan sang "Emptiness is loneliness and loneliness is cleanliness and cleanliness is godliness and God is empty just like me" he was obviously on about doing the dishes  :abbath:
So, Billy Corgan is God....  :abbath:
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: jpm4 on September 22, 2020, 09:56:34 PM
Swans as many have already said - Cop is a good place to start, probably the most brutal album ever recorded.

Joy Division can be quite intense.

Lots of industrial bands- Skinny Puppy for one.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: astfgyl on September 22, 2020, 10:28:49 PM
Surely the most obvious heavy outside of metal is the industrial stuff. Some of it is much heavier than metal but there is some awful shit to sift through to get to it
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: astfgyl on September 22, 2020, 10:42:10 PM
Hopping off Red House Painters here. Very miserable.

Was only familiar with Kozelek from the Jesu split stuff and an odd track here and there. Must explore further. Also must say this is not heavy.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Blackout on September 22, 2020, 11:53:53 PM
https://youtu.be/J7IYhmcUAGs

Probably my favourite drum n bass producer and he is heavy as fuck.

Check out this album and force of nature.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 23, 2020, 12:21:45 AM
Nice. In a similar vein, but heavy in more of a headfuck kinda way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V98EyRAfB0w
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Carnage on September 23, 2020, 12:55:11 AM
That Audio's pretty decent, was just listening to some Roni Size the other day, brought me back to that drum & bass club on the quays in Dublin in the late '90s. Can't remember the name, it was underground if memory serves. Grand to chill there, hidden by the smoke machine.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Blackout on September 23, 2020, 12:16:49 PM
Best mix from the 90s I've ever heard is ed rush and optical. These guys pretty much drew the blueprint for modern Neuro and Jumpup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato6_VVDOvw
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: leatherface on September 23, 2020, 10:34:42 PM
While we're recommending Drum and Bass, this duo are/were great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAJJsTAX4mA
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 23, 2020, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: Blackout on September 23, 2020, 12:16:49 PM
Best mix from the 90s I've ever heard is ed rush and optical. These guys pretty much drew the blueprint for modern Neuro and Jumpup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato6_VVDOvw

Taking yokes and commenting on YouTube videos...not recommended:
(https://i.ibb.co/YLGGrpR/drum-bass-comment.png)
:laugh:
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 23, 2020, 10:41:40 PM
Class mix though.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Blackout on September 24, 2020, 11:27:33 AM
Quote from: leatherface on September 23, 2020, 10:34:42 PM
While we're recommending Drum and Bass, this duo are/were great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAJJsTAX4mA

Seen them a few years ago. They were at their peak in 2016.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: blessed1 on September 24, 2020, 12:12:59 PM
Meat loaf
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Yung Led Zeppelin on September 24, 2020, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 23, 2020, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: Blackout on September 23, 2020, 12:16:49 PM
Best mix from the 90s I've ever heard is ed rush and optical. These guys pretty much drew the blueprint for modern Neuro and Jumpup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato6_VVDOvw

Taking yokes and commenting on YouTube videos...not recommended:
(https://i.ibb.co/YLGGrpR/drum-bass-comment.png)
:laugh:

Au contraire! It's a goldmine

https://twitter.com/UKRaveComments

The Haxan Cloak, heavy as balls, bleak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZi1ap3Jbhk

Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Pentagrimes on September 25, 2020, 10:20:21 AM
I feel like a lot of the stuff on that label The Flenser fits in with this thread
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on September 26, 2020, 12:15:27 AM
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on September 24, 2020, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 23, 2020, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: Blackout on September 23, 2020, 12:16:49 PM
Best mix from the 90s I've ever heard is ed rush and optical. These guys pretty much drew the blueprint for modern Neuro and Jumpup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato6_VVDOvw

Taking yokes and commenting on YouTube videos...not recommended:
(https://i.ibb.co/YLGGrpR/drum-bass-comment.png)
:laugh:

Au contraire! It's a goldmine

https://twitter.com/UKRaveComments

The Haxan Cloak, heavy as balls, bleak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZi1ap3Jbhk
The Hexan Cloak: I like.......
You've smoked the # lawd....
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Anton Arcane on September 26, 2020, 02:03:54 AM
I couldn't let this thread go without mentioning Lorn. Also are The Body metal?
https://youtu.be/nxg4C365LbQ
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Anton Arcane on September 26, 2020, 02:10:08 AM
And this. AKA your man that did the Stranger Things theme.
https://youtu.be/3gHmM0VQhJ0
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Thorn on September 26, 2020, 03:07:36 AM
Elend. 
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: astfgyl on September 28, 2020, 08:25:52 PM
Alec Empire has lots of heavy stuff.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Yung Led Zeppelin on September 29, 2020, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on September 26, 2020, 12:15:27 AM
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on September 24, 2020, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 23, 2020, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: Blackout on September 23, 2020, 12:16:49 PM
Best mix from the 90s I've ever heard is ed rush and optical. These guys pretty much drew the blueprint for modern Neuro and Jumpup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato6_VVDOvw

Taking yokes and commenting on YouTube videos...not recommended:
(https://i.ibb.co/YLGGrpR/drum-bass-comment.png)
:laugh:

Au contraire! It's a goldmine

https://twitter.com/UKRaveComments

The Haxan Cloak, heavy as balls, bleak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZi1ap3Jbhk
The Hexan Cloak: I like.......
You've smoked the # lawd....

Would you believe I've only ever listened to this album stone cold sober. Must get an "alternative perspective" at some stage alright.
Title: Re: Heavy Stuff that's not 'Metal'
Post by: Pentagrimes on October 01, 2020, 01:42:36 PM
New Wax Chattels album definitely has some heft to it, the rythym section is pathologically tight to the point where it feels like they're kicking you in the ribs, in the way recent Daughters some times hints at. the fact one track opens with a blast beat indicates they likely have foot in hc or metal

Heliocentrics definitely have a darkness/heaviness to them the way Portishead did.